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Quality control on early-2000s MIM Fenders?

Recently I bought a used 2003 MIM Fender Mark Hoppus P-Bass from Guitar Center's online used section. I asked if it was possible to ship used inventory from store to store before I bought it (the item was in Michigan, I'm in Washington), but the manager in charge of used sales insisted on finalizing the sale right then. Questioning the condition, he said it was in excellent condition and had a straight neck and the price being what it was (less than half of how much it costs new), I bit the bullet and bought the bass.

After receiving the bass, it was in great condition for being a 6 year old bass and had barely any signs of use outside of slight buckle rash and picking across the pickguard (it even had the stock six year old Fender strings). However, there were a few quality control issues I noticed -

Daphne Blue paint was caked inside of the neck pocket - they didn't even bother to wait for the paint to dry and they crammed the neck onto the body. After popping off the neck to clean out the caked in paint (paint was sponged all over the neck heel as well), I noticed that the guitar had Olympic White paint that had been covered over. I had suspicions that it may have been refinished, but the light wear on the pickguard and the lack of a string change tells me that the previous owner probably wouldn't have taken the effort to refinish the bass.

One of the things I like to do is shield the interior cavity with copper foil tape. When I opened up the cavity, thick Daphne Blue (with Olympic White) flakes fell out. I was suspicious that the body may have been a fake, but little MIM details were present, like the barcode MO stickers.

After cleaning it up and doing a quick setup, the bass sounds great and plays really well. But the bass as a whole seemed to be assembled sloppily and needed tightening up in certain spots. Was this a frequent occurrence in early 00s MIM basses?
 
This is one of the reason why the MIA's cost more. But realistically these are pretty easy fixes. This is why an upgraded/modded MIM can be as good MIA with a little work, its all in the details man'.
 
I have an 2003 p bass and owned a 2004 hoppus. My hoppus was like a 3 piece body and you could tell if it was in the light you could see the pieces. Mine was pretty good i got it used for 450$ sold it for 450$ and bought th MIM for 180 and put seymour duncan quarter pounds in for a total of like 250$ and i think it plays better than the hoppus.
 
The hoppus bass if I recall only came in daphne and pink, white is kinda recent-ish, isnt it?

And how could you tell the strings were 6 years old?

They were originally featured in Daphne Blue, Shell Pink and Surf Green. Shell pink was discontinued later on in favor of Olympic White and Black.

The strings were old, worn and tarnished with finger residues. They had absolutely no tone to them.

But in actuality, the reason why I think it had the stock strings was because they were the same Fender strings with grey thread wrappings that were featured in the press shot for the Hoppus bass in the Fender website.
 
I've stumbled across this picture of a Hoppus on eBay:

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Look at the Surf Green underneath the flaking Shell Pink paint. Apparently painting over errors was pretty common with the Hoppuses. I see patches of poorly smoothed orange peel on the horns of mine
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Tell you what...

I just picked up a 2008 MIM Classic Series '70s Jazz and it is gorgeous! Sunburst finish... and they did a great job matching the grain... you can barely detect the seams at all!

Yeah... they're hit or miss... as are ALL basses, IMO.

You just gotta try 'em out! If you buy something sight-unseen, you take a definite risk. However, as one of our fellow TB'ers mentioned in a previous post, many mods can be made to make a MIM instrument just as killer as anything MIA.

Oh... I've got some plans for that Jazz Bass... believe me! :D
 
I have a 2000 MIM J and it's a well-put together bass. My only complaint is that it's a bit over 9 pounds, but there are always weight variations from bass to bass.

Fender has always had a reputation for painting over existing finishes when something went wrong. Many solid color bodies from the 60's and 70's have a sunburst underneath that had problems, so they just re-shot them to solid colors.

A few paint flakes wouldn't bother me if they're in places like the neck pocket and pickup cavity.
 
My '01 P-bass Deluxe has been great. The only problem is that it has a high fret on 17th fret. No matter how I raise the action, I can't get rid of the buzzing and its only on that fret. The frets before and past it won't buzz, but that one still will buzz. Actually, it doesn't even buzz, it almost sounds like a really buzzy ghost note...no sustain, no actual note, just a dull, clanky thud. Its very annoying. Now, I don't usually play up that high, but it does keep me from getting the action as low as I'd like it to be. It's a pretty simple fix too. But, I've never bothered because it still plays fairly nicely for what it cost and I've gotten through many gigs without a problem on it.

I have played many MIM Fenders since buying that one and I've never noticed any problems like mine has. The high-end MIMs, the Classic series in particular, have all been outstanding and I would be buy any of them without any reservations.

In short, they have been alright for a while, but they have gotten much better over the last 5-6 years. Sometimes they still have cheap components, but for the most part, they are very good deals.
 

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