Questions about a Quilter full stack

[jazzbass_5]

So, I got this rig (pictured) and as much as I love it it is Sooo heavy. SVT-6 pro - 6x10.
I've owned a Quilter BB800 so I already know I like them.
I'd like to sell the Ampeg rig to fund a Quilter rig (second picture, not mine).
I'd like to ke some feedback about this rig before I start selling stuff.
@J.Wolf (I see that that picture was your rig) thoughts?

 

[jazzbass_5]

@J.Wolf, I tried to message you but your inbox is full.

 

[J.Wolf]

Hey man, sorry about that I let my subscription lapse and the storage is much lower for non supporting members. Need to fix that. Yes I was pretty impressed with the set up. My friend has the identical rig with his touring group and was able to replace a pretty stout 4x10 and he's much happier with the clarity and punch. Not the most hi-fi sound overall but extremely effective for 90% of an average bassists needs

 

[jazzbass_5]

Hey man, sorry about that I let my subscription lapse and the storage is much lower for non supporting members. Need to fix that. Yes I was pretty impressed with the set up. My friend has the identical rig with his touring group and was able to replace a pretty stout 4x10 and he's much happier with the clarity and punch. Not the most hi-fi sound overall but extremely effective for 90% of an average bassists needs

Thanks brother, the SVT-6 pro is probably overkill for what I do. I just like to always have the headroom needed and not have to push the power Amp section. As I said, I'm familiar with the BB800 as I use to have one and I've used that with an Ampeg 8x10, a 6x10 and 4x10s. always ran like a top. I did run either an Ampeg SVP-PRO preamp or an SVPCL in front of it but still the little guy ran great.
I'm more concerned with the cabs and it sounds like they'll work fine too.

 

[Ross W. Lovell]

Love the Bass Block, but have little knowledge or access to their cabs.

Been using Epiphani.

 

[Lowendchamp]

I ditched my Ampeg thinking I would miss the sound but my Rumble 800 is super awesome. I have no experience with quilter but I've heard great things. My point is that with clean simple amplification I don't miss the Ampeg sound because I can always use an effect or preamp to get that sound but I can't lose it if it's built in. Whatever your adventure ends up being I wish you good luck.

 

[J.Wolf]

I think coming from an 810 to the 110+112 is a big stretch, but I'm confident saying that it will beat a decent 410 in terms of performance.

 

[lomo]

I have the BB802 and Bass Block 110 cab.....it is a fantastic combo. The 2nd generation Bass Block cabs (as opposed to the earlier Bassliners) are tuned for classic gut punch midrange glory. They are also very attractively priced and handle more power than conventional cabs. Before buying I emailed Quilter asking if the 110 cab can actually handle 400 watts as stated, and whether it has a longer throw/xmax than standard 110 drivers and Quilter answered yes to both. It gets louder and pushes more lows at loud volume than other 10s I have owned. The only drawbacks are cost saving features like 1/4" inputs, Kmart quality handles and weights that are higher than boutique competition....the Bass Block 10 weighs as much as my Mesa Subway 112 and double my Barefaced One10......but the lower price reflects the heavier weight.....all in all amazing cabs and a sleeper deal....BUT if you have the budget to buy a super light cab (like a Barefaced or GR), then it all depends on how much you are willing to spend in relation to how light you wanna get?

 

[pglaser01]

How many gigs before you can safely afford both rigs????????

 

[CaseyVancouver]

I think coming from an 810 to the 110+112 is a big stretch, but I'm confident saying that it will beat a decent 410 in terms of performance.

A 110+112 can beat a 410? Can you expand on this?
Sorry, I am skeptical.

I have a Yorkville 800xs Mesa 410 beside my GK112-II plus powered 112 in my practice room. So two 12" vs four 10".
The 410 is more muscle.

 

[Frank77]

A 110+112 can beat a 410? Can you expand on this?
Sorry, I am skeptical.

I have a Yorkville 800xs Mesa 410 beside my GK112-II plus powered 112 in my practice room. So two 12" vs four 10".
The 410 is more muscle.

It really depends on the speakers. I don't know about the Quilter specifically, but many "super cabs" (e.g. GreenBoy, Barefaced, AudioKinesis) feature speakers that have a lot more excursion, meaning that for the same diameter they can push much more air. A super 112 can get pretty close to an old 410, in some cases.

I never measured it with a sound meter, but I know that scenarios where I needed a 410 (because a 210 wasn't enough and a 410 was typically the next loudest thing available) can now be handled by my super 112 with plenty of room to spare.

 

[brianrost]

I've sat in with a band playing through the bassist's Quilter stack and was very impressed. He was playing both upright bass and bass guitar, I used his upright. I thought the Quilter cabs had excellent tone and definition, comparable to the Bergantinos I've used for many years. Clear but not thin and deep but not muddy, just very well balanced. You already know what the Bass Block head can do, matched with the cabs I'd put it on my short list of rigs to consider.

 

[lomo]

A 110+112 can beat a 410? Can you expand on this?
Sorry, I am skeptical.

I have a Yorkville 800xs Mesa 410 beside my GK112-II plus powered 112 in my practice room. So two 12" vs four 10".
The 410 is more muscle.

What Frank77 said. All 10" (or any diameter, for that matter) speakers are not equal, and over the last 10 years, some have been designed with power handling and max excursion/volume potential that far exceed average norms. The Bass Block cabs use those newer drivers. Whether the 110/112 stack rivals a 410 will depend on which 410, but I suspect that for most 410s it'd be too close to call.

 

[J.Wolf]

A 110+112 can beat a 410? Can you expand on this?
Sorry, I am skeptical.

I have a Yorkville 800xs Mesa 410 beside my GK112-II plus powered 112 in my practice room. So two 12" vs four 10".
The 410 is more muscle.

I dont like to speak in absolutes, as speaker size and number are only one part of the equation of a rigs performance, but anecdotally, my friend is on tour with a southern rock band, and was using an 800w head with a Hartke 410 for years. He switched to the BB802, BD110 and 112 and don't be happier. Says his tone is much less muddy, more clarity more punch and more usable volume.

That being said there are 410's that exist that will peel the paint off the wall.

 

[J.Wolf]

But that being said, as a generality, a 410 has the "potential" to move more air than a 112+110. Some people prefer clarity, articulation and punch, and some people prefer to feel their pants flapping. Just a preference thing, usually depending on what one is accustomed to.

 

[bassfootballguy]

Pulling a Lazarus on this thread…

How is it using the BD10 and BD12 stacked? No issues with the mix of driver sizes?

James

 

[J.Wolf]

update, my buddy is still touring with the 110 and 112 stack and is blown away by the volume and punch he's getting from it. he loves the tone and says its the "clown car" of bass rigs. the doors open and people just keep pouring out of it. Fantastic stuff.

 

[bassfootballguy]

Lol thanks, J.Wolf!