Radial PZ Pre as preamp for URB

Discussion in 'Amps, Mics & Pickups [DB]' started by Ampig, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. Ampig

    Ampig Supporting Member

    Anybody have experience with this set up? Care to offer any opinions?
  2. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri

    Contact shwashwa (Steve Swanson) here on Talkbass
    he uses/used the Radial PZ Pre.

  3. Mark Gollihur

    Mark Gollihur Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 19, 2000
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Owner/President, Gollihur Music LLC
    It works quite well. We sell it at our store specifically for the purpose, and Christopher (my employee, who gigs about 15-25 a month) uses one of the PZ Deluxe (very similar design, one channel) as his primary pre. What do you need to know?
  4. Ampig

    Ampig Supporting Member

    Just looking at one as a possibility to replace my K&K
  5. Mark Gollihur

    Mark Gollihur Supporting Member Commercial User

    Jul 19, 2000
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Owner/President, Gollihur Music LLC
    Do you need two channels? Because the new(er) PZ-Deluxe is less expensive, puts the "good" channel from the PZ Pre into a smaller box, and all you lose out on is the second channel, mostly.
  6. Ampig

    Ampig Supporting Member

    Two channnels most likely. I use a URB and an ABG at some shows
  7. I'm a big fan of the PZed-Pre. Even though I don't double, it has been indispensable having the second channel for forgetful fiddlers who don't remember their Countryman or for the guitar player who loses his LR Baggs. I researched extensively what was available when I first needed a preamp and the Radial came out on top for what I needed. I thought I might experiment with a clicky for slap bass or with a mic and piezo, but so far the Underwood picks up enough slap that I haven't bothered with a clicky.

    I use the boost to set up a separate volume for switching between arco and pizz; Tuner-out lets me keep the tuner always on so I can check intonation on the fly and the Radial's mute switch lets me tune quietly between songs. HPF & Notch filter with semi-para mid EQ have almost always been able to tame feedback gremlins. DI has two outs, one pre EQ the other post-EQ – sending FOH engineers "your sound", I've found, doesn't work 'cause they are going to do whatever they want and have different needs anyway so they get Pre-EQ; I've used the post-EQ for recording.

    There's one TBer I know of that liked the PZed-Pre, but not enough to keep it. I can't remember who exactly. I've noted that most anybody else that uses a Radial PZed-Pre has been happy with it.

    Take that all for what it's worth though, I'm just a biased novice!
  8. shwashwa


    Aug 30, 2003
    indeed i do, and i love it, i bring it to every gig and use it with all my rigs. i have 4 very different sounding basses with different pickups and it makes them all sound good as well as friends' basses as well. i do however use some extreme eqing to get it to sound the way i want it. my philosophy is not to use minimal eq because we want the bass' sound to come through. my philosophy is most basses sound like crap through a piezo and we need to eq the hell out of it to get it back to a natural sound, what it sounds like before the pickup ruins it. for me the pz pre gets me back to that sound the best (and i have many preamps, maybe 8 at last count?). i have a pretty standard setup i use on it, for all my basses, and i fine tune the tone for the room on my amp. i think its just great, but having said that, i've lately been giving some time to the aguilar tone hammer pedal paired with the fdeck seires 3 with great results also.
  9. WayneDupuis


    Mar 9, 2014
    Victoria BC
    It's a terrific sounding box on my carved bass with Underwood on the E side. Acoustic image set flat with some treble and brite. Hp filter cuts feedback. Switching between abg and double bass is seamless and quiet. A great sounding pedal.
  10. Jon Mush

    Jon Mush

    Jun 3, 2015
    Winnipeg, MB
    I have the PZ Deluxe as well. I really like it, and have gotten compliments from respected sound engineers on the tone. It's quiet and takes life on the road easily.

    I go back and forth with the HPF, it seems a bit high and sucks some of the grunt out of my bass. Recently, I've been rolling back the bass filter to about 9-10 instead and having better results (for now). Other than that I don't actually need much EQ at all. I set it up with good headphones to get the most natural sound I could, and just send that to the PA.

    I do miss the idea of the insert points on the PZ Pre, but I don't need the two channels---so I made the choice for the simple unit. (I was planning on a reverb pedal to help my bad arco skills--I decided to practice more.) Otherwise the only issue I have is the crappy AC adapter. I can hear what good components sound like with real power over phantom or batteries, but that thing was short lived on the road for me and it's a convoluted exercise getting pedalboard power to run it. I had an electronics guy make me a dedicated psu that ties under my board.

    I've tried a few pre's (fish man, baggs, k&k), and nothing sounded this good (for me). Never tried Headway or Grace...yet.
  11. Ampig

    Ampig Supporting Member

    I wound up getting the Pre Z. Used it for a while but replaced it with a Hedway which I prefer. It seems warmer to me.
  12. Jay Corwin

    Jay Corwin Supporting Member

    Jan 29, 2008
    Sanborn, NY
    It's a good unit. I used one as my main means to DI for quite a few gigs. It's now my backup. Radial makes great stuff in general. I only wish it could be phantom or 9v powered.