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Ramping Up With Your New (working) Band

The first page of this thread is a sad commentary on some members' eagerness to plow Blue into the ground every chance they get.

The guy posts a thread, makes a comment, invites others to share their ideas, and several of you peel his skin off.

You didn't even try to understand the thread, you just picked out a few of his words and ridiculed his thread based on your twisted version of it. I could easily reconstruct your posts into something insulting.

Just like the old thread that had all the facepalm posts ridiculing Blue, I'm disgusted by some of schoolyard bully behavior.

:scowl:
 
The first page of this thread is a sad commentary on some members' eagerness to plow Blue into the ground every chance they get.

The guy posts a thread, makes a comment, invites others to share their ideas, and several of you peel his skin off.

You didn't even try to understand the thread, you just picked out a few of his words and ridiculed his thread based on your twisted version of it. I could easily reconstruct your posts into something insulting.

Just like the old thread that had all the facepalm posts ridiculing Blue, I'm disgusted by some of schoolyard bully behavior.

:scowl:
If this is the first time you have seen Blue post, I could see how it might appear that way. That said, it does seem we are now seeing a kindler, gentler Blue in this thread. Maybe he has turned over a new leaf.
 
If this is the first time you have seen Blue post, I could see how it might appear that way. That said, it does seem we are now seeing a kindler, gentler Blue in this thread. Maybe he has turned over a new leaf.

It doesn't "appear" that way, it IS that way.

I've been watching Blue's posts since he joined.

Bullies usually think they're a lot nicer than they are.

:scowl:
 
I'm with the OP in that I can't remember every song note-for-note in a short time frame. So I try and learn the basic structure of the song and minimum to get me through a gig (and have notes to remember the structure). Then I slowly go back over songs to learn essential riffs/stops/whatever is essential to the song. Then as time goes by I keep revisiting and learning songs note for note (so I can play them exactly like the original, IF I SO CHOOSE). Did I mention I have the most problem remembering the structure of the song, not necessarily what to play?

But in this situation the OP is in a blues band (?), so I'd think getting the right feel would be more important than playing the bass line note-for-note.
 
The first page of this thread is a sad commentary on some members' eagerness to plow Blue into the ground every chance they get.

The guy posts a thread, makes a comment, invites others to share their ideas, and several of you peel his skin off.

You didn't even try to understand the thread, you just picked out a few of his words and ridiculed his thread based on your twisted version of it. I could easily reconstruct your posts into something insulting.

Just like the old thread that had all the facepalm posts ridiculing Blue, I'm disgusted by some of schoolyard bully behavior.

:scowl:

so you're saying that pointing out inconsistencies equals bullying? or is it the asking for clarification? if it was anyone else they'd get the same sort of response, what makes bluewine so special?
 
the yeti said:
so you're saying that pointing out inconsistencies equals bullying? or is it the asking for clarification? if it was anyone else they'd get the same sort of response, what makes bluewine so special?

Absolutely nothing, I'm not special. Just a little opinionated and very proud of how long I have been doing this whole bass guitar thing.

Most of the guys here are significantly younger than me. I come at this band thing a lot differently than the younger cats.

I have learned from some of them, I can't go around acting like it's 1969.

blue
 
Cool comment.

For me with the old band breaking up right when I finally owned every song then 2 months later I'm starting from scratch for the new band is a challenge and I have not been putting in the work that I should for the new band.

When I get home from work, I go to the gym, when I finally get home, I'm exhausted. I have been crashing without practicing the new material.

A new band and its material can be rewarding and fresh. It also can put some stress on you when you are Joe Q average bass player with a 9-5 and chores to do...been there done that. I like that my band adds new songs every few months .We just added 5-6 new ones and will be playing them next week..cool!
 
They send me a list of 50 songs, I learn them in less than two weeks. That's it. See Jive's thread on how to accomplish that task if you are not currently capable.

I really wish I could do this and I am jealous of people who can :atoz:

Realistically, I have 2 hours a day to practice. Assuming I know none of the songs (unrealistic, but let's say), that gives me 28 hours to learn 50 songs. Let's assume I already have all 50 songs (again unrealistic, I probably need 2 hours just to download the ones I don't have).

That is 33 minutes per song. Given the time to work them out, and that I personally have to repeat songs to learn them.....

I actually lost a gig because I couldn't learn 15 songs in 12 hours.
 
ChrisB2 said:
The first page of this thread is a sad commentary on some members' eagerness to plow Blue into the ground every chance they get.

The guy posts a thread, makes a comment, invites others to share their ideas, and several of you peel his skin off.

You didn't even try to understand the thread, you just picked out a few of his words and ridiculed his thread based on your twisted version of it. I could easily reconstruct your posts into something insulting.

Just like the old thread that had all the facepalm posts ridiculing Blue, I'm disgusted by some of schoolyard bully behavior.

:scowl:

Oh, please. He invites exactly the responses he gets. In fact, he thrives on it.
 
Absolutely nothing, I'm not special. Just a little opinionated and very proud of how long I have been doing this whole bass guitar thing.

Most of the guys here are significantly younger than me. I come at this band thing a lot differently than the younger cats.

I have learned from some of them, I can't go around acting like it's 1969.

blue

yeah blue, i didn't mean to imply that YOU think you are, sorry if i did.

as long as we've been here when you post something that a) i don't understand or b) doesn't add up (for me) i've asked about it. i haven't seen an indication from you that you're not ok with it so i'll continue i guess. imo that's sort of an important part of communication. cool?
 
say you don't learn the 45- 50 (or 2) songs in time. something that has served me fairly well is paying attention to what others are playing and playing "to" that. i have occasionally heard songs for the 1st time ever on a stage as i was playing them. not so much these days thankfully, but i've done it.

i don't know if it qualifies as "methodology" but a basic working knowledge of theory and familiarity with other instruments helps a lot i think.
 
seanm said:
I really wish I could do this and I am jealous of people who can :atoz:

Realistically, I have 2 hours a day to practice. Assuming I know none of the songs (unrealistic, but let's say), that gives me 28 hours to learn 50 songs. Let's assume I already have all 50 songs (again unrealistic, I probably need 2 hours just to download the ones I don't have).

That is 33 minutes per song. Given the time to work them out, and that I personally have to repeat songs to learn them.....

I actually lost a gig because I couldn't learn 15 songs in 12 hours.

Don't worry, and remember when we say learning songs it's relative.

How you define "learning songs" may be different than others.

I think your learning curve is realistic and will only improve.

blue
 
Every time I see Blue posting it makes me think, "there's more time he could be using to prepare for that gig on Thanksgiving." For such a self-professed busy man, he certainly has a lot of time for posting to the forum.
 
The first page of this thread is a sad commentary on some members' eagerness to plow Blue into the ground every chance they get.

The guy posts a thread, makes a comment, invites others to share their ideas, and several of you peel his skin off.

Actually I see very little skin peeling. Just because we disagree does not mean we're plowing or bullying. We're just trying to give him some advice. If mentioning that he should be practicing instead of wasting his time on the forum, it may come across as harsh, but there's some truth to it (no offence, Blue).

The thing is, memorizing and learning songs is all about experience. Once someone has played for a number years (in my case 35), the memory has developed so that songs are remembered quicker. They say that New York waitresses have the best memories in the world. That's because it's developed over time.

Plus, patterns are learned. After learning (and forgetting) literally thousands of songs, it would seem that there's not really all that much new in rock & roll. Most stuff is still 3 or 4 chords. A lot of bass lines these days aren't all that complicated.

Most cover band set lists only have 3 or 4 complicated songs that someone who's been playing for a while might not know. Their set lists usually don't vary much. In my experience, even the most unique bands aren't all that unique. Very rarely have I been handed a set list where I haven't played most of the material at one time or another. That pretty much includes most genres. (Okay, Jazz might be a little elusive to me.)

Original bands you can put your own spin on, so you can either play or not. A recording, a chord chart and a week should be enough to get down a 40 minute set. If you've been a player for a while, and the BL doesn't mind a music stand on stage, eventually you'll have developed enough skill to get through a chart without mistakes right from the start with no practice or rehearsals.

In general (don't pounce on me if you're the exception) if someone has only been playing for 2 or 3 years, they are not going to know as many songs and have a lot less experience in different genres. It will be a lot harder. After 5 or so years, playing in 5 or so different bands, learning and remembering songs becomes second nature.

Another thing is you get out of it what you put into it. If I had a gig with an 'A' list band, I would be cramming 6 hours a day everyday until the show.