Rat vs. Big Muff

[cnltb]

Seems like there's a lot of threads like this around, but I wanted to try and get a bit more specific with my bass distortion. The Rat and the Russian Big Muff seem to be the most common uses bass pedals to get some dirt on your tone. I want some distortion without losing low end. Also, keeping definition in my notes is key. I feel like with a fuzz pedal you don't get definition, but an overdrive pedal might not keep the low end! I play a jazz bass with a pick thru a Mesa 400+ head. Any suggestions would rule! Thanks!

I love the rat but feel it just eats too much of my bottom end when I am using it.
If I found something that sounds just like the rat but leaves the bottom intact I'd be there...

Haven't had enough time with a muff to comment.

 

[G3Mitch]

Well it could. Unless, you know, you just post up yours.

NEVER. joking.. i wud have to check my internal settings again, was a little while ago i messed with them. Set and forget.. which i did. i actually ****ED up before... its 7 knobs, the 2 internal knobs just change how the scoop and crunch knobs work. but its essential for bass.

i have mine set with Loudness 10, Filter 2, Sustain 2, Scoop 12-1, Crunch 6-8(depends on room or mood)

i'll edit this post once i check my internal settings.. so watch this space Floyd Eye.

 

[Petros-J]

I personaly dont like the Muff that much.
I really like and been using a TurboRat for a long time but always with a Boss EQ pedal after it for some low-end cause TR cuts alot of bass freqs. Both always open and through an LS-2 to quickly engage them.
My problem now is that I added some new stuff to my pedaltrain and dont have room for those 3 pedals anymore, so now im using a Tech21 XXL bass dist(dont like it that much either).
I really want this TurboRat+EQ tone back in one pedal. Suggestions?

 

[taurus1]

I personaly dont like the Muff that much.
I really like and been using a TurboRat for a long time but always with a Boss EQ pedal after it for some low-end cause TR cuts alot of bass freqs. Both always open and through an LS-2 to quickly engage them.
My problem now is that I added some new stuff to my pedaltrain and dont have room for those 3 pedals anymore, so now im using a Tech21 XXL bass dist(dont like it that much either).
I really want this TurboRat+EQ tone back in one pedal. Suggestions?

I agree on the Turbo Rat, that pedal just works so well with bass. you could eliminate the eq, by blending in the second loop on the LS-2. the Reutz mod supposedly restores bottom end.

 

[alexa.]

There is a simple mod for the turbo rat that lowers the bass cut and makes it sound great with bass. I'll look it up now. I only know I found that mod here on talkbass in one of the turbo rat topics.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/cap-mod-turbo-rat-280442/#post3415775

This.

 

[rratajski]

The right way to do the ruetz is to replace both resistors with pots like Beavis Audio taught us

 

[Floyd Eye]

NEVER. joking.. i wud have to check my internal settings again, was a little while ago i messed with them. Set and forget.. which i did. i actually ****ED up before... its 7 knobs, the 2 internal knobs just change how the scoop and crunch knobs work. but its essential for bass.

i have mine set with Loudness 10, Filter 2, Sustain 2, Scoop 12-1, Crunch 6-8(depends on room or mood)

i'll edit this post once i check my internal settings.. so watch this space Floyd Eye.

Thanks my brother, I will.

 

[n_n]

very late here....but you got it all wrong...it's not RAT vs Muff...it's Rat AND Muff together.....+EQ.....killer sound.