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Refret

Jan 10, 2022
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I have a thing for old stuff and projects. I picked up a Washburn B10 ABT Force the other day. It is in really good condition considering it is from the mid/late 80's.

It is also well played....several frets are flat. I was pricing refret jobs in my area, $325 - 350 seems typical. More than what the bass is worth really. It looks like I can get materials and tools for around $100. Never attempted this before....is the money well spent on a refret or is this something a reasonably handy guy can handle?
 
A refret can be more involved then it seems on the surface but it's also not rocket surgery and quite doable. Like anything it takes some practice and if the bass in question is precious it might not be the one to start on. There are numerous threads in hardware, setup and repair about it and several times that number of YouTube videos. Watch and read, think it through and go. If the neck has binding that adds another layer and the need for an additional tool.

Pictures of what you have might help. It's possible the frets just need to be leveled and recrowned. Surprisingly low frets can still be successfully leveled.

Which tools are you looking at? $100 seems… thrifty. Better, read nonfrustrating, tools are going to be a bit more but worth it. If this is genuinely the only time you'll use them and time spent is no object you might get by with the cheaper generic tools but I almost guarantee if one leveling and crowning goes well you'll be eyeing up your other instruments also and the nicer tools will be worth it.
 
I taught myself to do it watching the 1K refret tutorials on Youtube. Obviously getting instruction from a Pro in real time would be ideal, but that's available in a virtual sense on YT, and hard to come by otherwise. While techniques vary slightly, the most common approach, and the way I did it, seems to be heating the frets with a soldering iron and a bit of flux and solder to release any glue or funk in the slots, and using a set of dedicated FRET PULLERS, not an old set of nail pullers or a scew driver. Stewmac makes some fret pulling shields that go under the fret edges and help to reduce chip-out, but ive never used them. Keep some CA glue handy to glue in any chips immediately, so you don't lose them. Unless you buy everything from Stewmac, I would think you could assemble the tools required for less than $100. If this is a one-off, shop around ruthlessly, lots of amateur-grade fret pulling and leveling tools available for far less than Stewmac prices. A decent cast-aluminum level, or even an inexpensive HF level, for instance, works perfectly well as a fret leveling beam. If you plan on doing this regularly, on multiple basses, by all means invest in better tools. I use an inexpensive triangular safe-edge file I got on Ebay for something like $12 for fret re-crowning, but there must be 100 tools made for the same job, most of them expensive. In general the extra money spent will produce better results quicker, but I tend to trade time for money.... because I have more time than money. About the only tool you really can't cheap out on is nut slotting files. Ive tried all the alternatives, including the welding tip files, wrapping sandpaper around drill bits, adding depth-stops to needle files, etc, and they all kind of suck. I bit the bullet and bought a set of the Stewmac files. Absurdly overpriced for what are esentially feeler guages with teeth cut in one edge, but that's true for all the good quality ones I could find.
 
Materials and tools for $100 seems way low. What method of fret installing are you pricing? Also, fret pulling… what method and tools are you planning to use? Then there's the cost of leveling and fret end shaping. Even being super frugal, I would think $200 minimum unless you already have certain tools that you can make work.
 
Thanks for the responses. I'm on the fence about paying someone to do it. I don't see this as being a usual thing for me, so spending $200 - 300 on tools plus the cost of the frets, seems not realistic.

I don't know what "method" the luthiers I priced are using. The neck is not bound but it is finished over the edge of the fretboard. I do know, typically when I hire someone to do work for me (cars, guns, etc) I'm not satisfied and I'm capable of better results on my own. I did find an amp guy and he's really good. But, I digress.

One of the tutorials I watched, the guy scored the contact between the fret and board before using nibs to pull the frets. I have seen where they will use a soldering iron to heat the fret to make pulling easier.
 
Full time pro Luthiers will have better tools, like a fret press instead of a fret hammer, a Stewmac Ultimate Fret End Dresser instead of a Geetar Gadgets safe edge file, a machined aluminum box-beam fret leveling beam instead of an HF level with sandpaper stuck to it, etc,. because for them time literally IS money, and the faster and more efficiently they can do the work, the more time they have for other billable projects. Again, if this is a one-time job, It might be cheaper and less stress just to bite the bullet and pay a Pro, if you want to learn a new skill, you can make do with with less expensive tools, because speed and efficiency is not your primary goal. A really skilled Pro with an old fashioned three-corner file is going to do a better job than a hack with a Stewmac diamond crowning file every time.
 
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The chip stoppers from Stew are worth the cost, agreed on soldering iron technique.
And Stew's fret pullers and the crowning files work well also.
If you have a drill press, that makes a great way to push the frets in.
You do need some sort of metal piece to push the frets in.
Or you can go the hammer route.

Long straightedge with sandpaper works well for levelling.

I got my training from watching a good friend and talented repair man.

The first one is certainly a challenge but not impossible.
Good luck.
 

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