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Remembering the Olympics

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Geddyfleaharris said:
*Sigh* so off topic but.....

The ridiculous statements I have read about having no pride in one's country and why feel pride over a perceived luck-of-the-draw birthplace have just caused me to throw up all over myself. If that's how people feel.....well.....we are lost. :scowl:

I think some people need to talk to their grandparents and great-grand parents and find out what the boys on the boats were feeling on D-Day and why there were there.
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Well, my grandmother was born in England. My great-grandparents were Russian emigrants who fled to Canada where my grandfather was born. He moved to the States. The only family who has been in the states for more than 2 generations is my father's father, and I believe his father (my great-grandfather).

Am I lucky to have been born in the US where I have MANY more opportunities than I would have had if I were born somewhere like Russia? Sure, I can acknowledge that. Does that mean I'm proud of my country? When I see the atrocities our higher ups commit on a regular basis, no I'm not. Maybe this country used to be something to be proud of, but the politicians ruined that a long time ago. This isnt 1941 anymore.
 
#62
Geddyfleaharris said:
*Sigh* so off topic but.....

The ridiculous statements I have read about having no pride in one's country and why feel pride over a perceived luck-of-the-draw birthplace have just caused me to throw up all over myself. If that's how people feel.....well.....we are lost. :scowl:
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Well, I think it's unfortunate that you see national pride as being so high up on the list of what's important in society. You think "we" are lost because some folks don't like overt displays of patriotism? Really? Okay, well, I have triple citizenship - which tattoo should I get first?

Geddyfleaharris said:
I think some people need to talk to their grandparents and great-grand parents and find out what the boys on the boats were feeling on D-Day and why there were there.
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I would hope that many were there because they felt that a great injustice was being committed in the world and not simply because they were proud of their country and wanted to fight for it. But yes, patriotism is a tool often exploited by the army to get people to enlist - or (on admittedly rarer occasions) to fly their planes into enemy targets.
 
#63
Well guys I think we will have to agree to disagree. Patriotism is important to me. I don't need to wave my flag everyday but its inside me everyday.

Matticus - The U.S. does tend to get beaten up over the Iraq war etc. But keep in mind that in times of need and disasters the U.S. is usually one of the first countries to the table. Don't be too hard on your country. I am old enough to remember the Cold War days. As much as some of the world hates America being the world's policeman, every time there was a crisis or confrontation all eyes looked to America for help. i.e. Gulf War. You guys are in a bit of a damned if you do and damned if you don't position.

And I do agree that politicians have messed things. We have them in Canada too and they are no better up here.
 

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