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Double Bass Removal of Full Circle

Not to me it doesn’t sound similar. I find the lifeline to be more or less completely truncated above a certain frequency. The full circle is much clearer and more balanced on my bass.

I’ve now experimented with Underwood, realist copperhead, lifeline, and full circle. I’m very interested in the Yamahiko but I’ll wait until I’m no longer happy with the full circle, or it frizzes out.

Here’s my bumper sticker reactions:
Underwood- very forward upper mids, good for cutting through a dense mix but it doesn’t really sound like a double bass. A 10meg ohm input impedance is almost mandatory.

Lifeline: Nice dark sound with some smoothness on the G string. Very boomy bass and not good clarity for cutting through a mix. It’s easy to like the sound of this pick up when you put it on and play by yourself in a room, but with a drummer, at some volume…. Not for me. It took me many gigs to accept this.

Realist: In some ways even boomier and more problematic than the lifeline, but also a better attack. I needed lots of eq to make this pick up work at anything other than very low volumes.

Full circle: For me the best compromise between clarity and mid-range annoyance. For now I really like the sound of this pickup. Another plus IMO is that the acoustic sound of my bass is least affected by this pickup of the four I’ve used, as long as I don’t use that foam plug to keep the wire in place. If I remember, I slip it on for a gig where it doesn’t matter because I’m playing amplified, but for practicing with a bow, I leave it off. I haven’t had a problem with the wire rattling.

Of course, everyone’s bass is different, strings are different, tastes and priorities in sound are different!
It seems like we agree then.
My opinion on pickups is based on fitting pickups on dozens and dozens of basses, and a dozen or so were my own. Not sure that’s a good thing………….. Sure, a Full Circle may be the best choice on a particular bass. I’ve been surprised at how well Underwoods, BP100s and even the Kirvo (or whatever it’s called) magnetic pickups work on certain basses.
Full disclosure here: I’m a Realist dealer and sell a bunch of Lifelines; have removed a few Copperheads and Full Circles. The Lifeline sounds good on a wide variety of basses. I like the Copperhead at low volume but if I had to choose one to rule them all it would be the Lifeline.
 
It seems like we agree then.
My opinion on pickups is based on fitting pickups on dozens and dozens of basses, and a dozen or so were my own. Not sure that’s a good thing………….. Sure, a Full Circle may be the best choice on a particular bass. I’ve been surprised at how well Underwoods, BP100s and even the Kirvo (or whatever it’s called) magnetic pickups work on certain basses.
Full disclosure here: I’m a Realist dealer and sell a bunch of Lifelines; have removed a few Copperheads and Full Circles. The Lifeline sounds good on a wide variety of basses. I like the Copperhead at low volume but if I had to choose one to rule them all it would be the Lifeline.
As a luthier, does it bug you that the Realist Copperhead leaves dents in the top? That's what happened to me. I gotta admit that once in a while I hear someone using one and I think that it's awfully close to an un-amped sound. It also bows the best of anything I've used. FWIW I'm using a Lifeline these days.
 
As a luthier, does it bug you that the Realist Copperhead leaves dents in the top? That's what happened to me. I gotta admit that once in a while I hear someone using one and I think that it's awfully close to an un-amped sound. It also bows the best of anything I've used. FWIW I'm using a Lifeline these days.
Sure does. I tried the wood version for that reason but it failed after only a year or so. My bass has both a Lifeline and Copperhead on it for different situations.
 
When I switched from the lifeline to the realist copperhead (which was an experiment that didn’t last very long, maybe 2 months) I was a little worried about how the pickup didn’t really fit well under the bridge foot. It kind of ‘rocked’ on those two small discs. So I went to a repairman and asked him to cut a little relief in the bottom of the bridge foot so that the pickup would really fit under the bridge foot, and to prevent any further damage to the top. After doing this, the bridge foot did fit much better, but anyone want to take a guess at what happened to the sound?
 
I always put some relief into the feet but no more than .5mm. Not up for guessing this morning. What happened to the sound.
The output lowered substantially. I’m guessing it’s the amount of pressure on those elements that determines the output level. The character of the sound was not noticeably changed and I rarely play gigs loud enough so that it was a problem, but it was definitely a learning experience for me.
 
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What kind of trouble is it giving you? The only trouble I've ever had with my FC is a worn-out barrel jack, which created a kind of crackling sound alternating with no sound, and which my luthier replaced in about 10 seconds. Got a good luthier around?
That describes the problem exactly, although the last time I tried it there was consistently no sound