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Replacing the TAFM with...

Apr 11, 2005
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Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
...would you believe the VT Bass Deluxe?

Was using the VTD since it came out as a dirt pedal and EQ/switching station for doubling on upright, but retired it maybe 2 years ago in favor of separates. Then I decided I liked the EQ in it better for upright than the Barber Linden I was using, and brought it back a month ago, replacing 3 pedals total. I really like the JohnK Greedtone overdrive clone I replaced, but the VTD does the sounds I get with the Greedtone so it didn't make sense to keep it on the board. Happens. Nothing personal, John ;) It'll see future use, no doubt, but probably more when I'm on the road and/or not doubling.

The one pedal on my board I didn't think it could replace, though, is the early-model Team Awesome Fuzz Machine I got last year. My fuzz needs are not much, just occasional Sly songs, Hollywood endings, and brief fuzz stabs in a couple songs. But I love actual fuzz and really wanted to add it, and the TAFM hit my buttons. Sure is big, though, and it forces me into using a bigger board than if I could just use the VTD for all my distorted needs. I decided to see if I could get the VTD close enough.

It's pretty fuzzy. The TAFM has that smooth synthy nastiness that the VTD doesn't quite achieve, plus the VTD doesn't do blending while the TAFM does, but it's almost fuzz if you dime the drive knob, turn bass up all the way and add a little treble. A big advantage it has over the TAFM is that the TAFM requires a second pedal to get rid of highs that can take out tweeters, and the VTD has a speaker sim rolloff built in, so I don't have to turn on two pedals every time I want fuzz. Sounds like small potatoes at first, but I sometimes would hit the wrong pedal and send out fuzzed tweeter frequencies, which sound techs pretty much universally despised. Took me a little while to tweak it, and I still haven't got it entirely tweaked yet, but it sounded quite acceptable on my gig last night. We'll see what happens, but for now I think it can work.

Anyone else have any experience replacing one pedal with an unlikely pedal that worked? Would like to hear stories...pedal obsession loves company.
 
A big advantage it has over the TAFM is that the TAFM requires a second pedal to get rid of highs that can take out tweeters, and the VTD has a speaker sim rolloff built in, so I don't have to turn on two pedals every time I want fuzz. Sounds like small potatoes at first, but I sometimes would hit the wrong pedal and send out fuzzed tweeter frequencies, which sound techs pretty much universally despised. Took me a little while to tweak it, and I still haven't got it entirely tweaked yet, but it sounded quite acceptable on my gig last night. We'll see what happens, but for now I think it can work.

I haven't played fuzz with my working band for a while, and it used to be a staple. I'm finding amp-style overdrive to suit my fuzz needs, as well, and for exactly the same reasons. I use a SGFX Beta most of the time...I think even one of the comments in the Beta thread early on was that this pedal was going to make sound guys happy. Last night I used a Wolff Drive prototype, which is a continuously impressive tube pedal built by another TB'er/amp builder, for fuzz tunes, and it slayed.

Anyone else have any experience replacing one pedal with an unlikely pedal that worked? Would like to hear stories...pedal obsession loves company.

I was using my go-to Ginger for a pushed amp sound in a Beatles/60s group. I added to the chain a Bad Monkey that I had modded myself to have a low gain overdrive feel (not the Badder mod, just a cap swap I happened on by experiment/accident). I wanted a distortion sound for some White Album type tunes. Turns out the Monkey had the exact mid-focused feel of a lot of early 60s recordings from various groups (that I guess were using guitar amps a lot of the time?) and ended up replacing the Ginger for my baseline tone.
 
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I don't have this problem, but I'm running a passive bass straight into an older TAFM without the switchable buffer. I'm not a fan of this pedal with a buffer before it as it makes it overly bright. What are you running into yours?
A Precision with a Geezer Butler P. But I usually use a wireless, which acts as a buffer, and even without it, it's still too bright for me.
 
UPDATE: Had a lot of gigs since starting this thread, used the VTD for fuzz on all of them. Was happy with the sound for certain things, but it just wasn't fuzz, so I'll be bringing the TAFM back.
I have a feeling that it's just one of those pedals that I will always drift back to no matter the flavor of the month. I swear, the TAFM is the only pedal on my board that I've never truly been able to steer myself away from for more than a minute. It's just so damn angry.
 
UPDATE: Had a lot of gigs since starting this thread, used the VTD for fuzz on all of them. Was happy with the sound for certain things, but it just wasn't fuzz, so I'll be bringing the TAFM back.

Is it consistent on the same tunes, or does it differ gig to gig? I've been using a Beta for fuzz lately...in some rooms it's great and in others I really miss an actual fuzz.
 
I never thought I would replace my ODB3 as a main grind/OD pedal. It going into the B7K was like my dream grindy bass tone. But when I switched amps from SS to all tube, so did the pedal. I replaced it with that DOD 250 reissue. At first I loved it. Then I didnt. But now, I love it again. It sounds so tasty going through a tube head. Yummyness.
 
UPDATE 2: Been doing them side by side on my last couple gigs, and I must have been hearing things before because there's such a tiny difference between the TAFM and the VTD cranked that I'm going to bag the TAFM yet again.