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Review: The Pickup Wizard hand wound split coil Precision bass pickup

Nov 29, 2008
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Go Canada! Usually I don’t do comparative reviews. Though I still am not in this one, when I swapped in this pickup by The Pickup Wizard, I saw the chance to understand two of my basses better by comparing their sounds in the context of the swap. Both were made by Fender (if 39 years apart), are fretted, have alder/maple/rosewood construction, and wear Curt Mangan flatwound strings. I don’t expect them to sound the same because of that, but I think it’s enough to aid in comparison of any factors.

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Background

Recently I wondered what about my 2008 Fender Custom Shop ’59 Precision made it sound relatively midrange-y, especially compared to my 1969 Fender Precision. Was it the bass itself or was it the fine Curtis Novak PB-V pickup I had in it for seven months until now? Today I learned that the answer is both.

The players

The CS bass's sound is on the hi-fi side of classic, with prominent yet sweet midrange. However the Novak PB-V plays right up the middle. Perfectly wooly and spongy, it presents neither low lows nor high highs with emphasis. The Novak PB-V only plays in the pocket.

Though not much more articulate than the CS/Novak setup, the 1969 Precision emphasizes higher highs, glassiness. This feature is subtle, but it has a big effect. And the old Precision’s money frets, on the low strings especially, emphasize the low lows. To me it doesn’t sound scooped, but it is. The net result is like a nice tube equalizer adding a bit of low shelved EQ from 40 Hz down and a even less high shelved EQ from 4 kHz up.

Comparison

Hearing the CS bass with the Pickup Wizard pickup, and comparing it to the old Precision finally let me see all that, about the respective voices of the two basses and of the Novak pickup.

To clarify: It was the two basses I was comparing, mostly, not the three pickups. But I should say that in my opinion the Novak PB-V and the Pickup Wizard Precision pickups are two rather different interpretations of “vintage”, yet both are credible, musical, and quite useful.

The voice of The Pickup Wizard

Like the Novak PB-V, the Pickup Wizard split coil Precision bass pickup is a total bad**s, dynamic and harmonically rich. But, though it has a nice amount of wool, it is less spongey, it goes much lower, and it has a delicate and detailed glassiness, all without giving up any midrange. Using the shelved EQ analogy, the Pickup Wizard P pickup’s glassiness was like high shelved EQ from 10 kHz up.

That pickup voice in the CS Precision really let the instrument shine. In fact it sounds so good, both in general and particularly in that bass, that I am tempted to let this pickup complete that bass. I won’t do it, though. Instead I will blueprint this installation then try some other pickups that have been waiting patiently. But I may well settle on The Pickup Wizard’s P pickup in the end.

Deal and specs

Peter (of) The Pickup Wizard was great to work with. Though obviously busy, he took time to field my questions, asked me excellent questions about my order, and simply was a good guy. Originally my order was for a custom set of pickups. Luckily I asked if he could add a split coil Precision pickup to the order and he agreed to.

My pickup happens to have gray bobbins since Peter was out of black at the time. But it has the 42 AWG Formvar coil wire, Alnico 5 magnets, and whatever else is standard for the model. I measured it at 11.1K ohm DCR, but I think that it may have measured a little lower in manufacture, say 10.8K.

Conclusion

A beautiful pickup and a new favorite of mine to play, I highly recommend the split coil Precision bass pickup by The Pickup Wizard. As I tried it this pickup sounds excellent with flatwound strings, though I believe it would sound as good with roundwounds, too.
 
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Thanks for taking the time to post this and for doing so articulately.
This might be just what I was looking for to complete the restoration of my 72 p bass.
 
Thanks. I thought I was done reading all these type of reviews for now until I came across your Klein review...

It raised a question, as I recall that was a P/J test you did on your 73 Ash/Maple P bass. This caught my attention because my 72 is the same wood combo and I thought this would help a lot in the comparison. I've had my 72 For 35+ years and it was modded by the previous owner who had wired it with separate volume/tones (it has a double j by bridge). I am refinishing and making a traditional P setup. However upon breaking down the bass I noticed that the 4 vol/tone pots in it are 500 ohm, and these pots are likely mid 70's. Are all your tests with your pickup reviews on basses with 250ohm pots? And more specifically is that was is in your 73?
I just ordered a pre wired p bass harness from TAOT (art of tone) with 250 ohm pots as I came across it while ordering something else and figured it would be an easy quick way to see what will work best.

Apologies if you already stated what you are using as I'm little late to this site in general.
Thanks
Rob
 
Thanks. I thought I was done reading all these type of reviews for now until I came across your Klein review...

It raised a question, as I recall that was a P/J test you did on your 73 Ash/Maple P bass. This caught my attention because my 72 is the same wood combo and I thought this would help a lot in the comparison. I've had my 72 For 35+ years and it was modded by the previous owner who had wired it with separate volume/tones (it has a double j by bridge). I am refinishing and making a traditional P setup. However upon breaking down the bass I noticed that the 4 vol/tone pots in it are 500 ohm, and these pots are likely mid 70's. Are all your tests with your pickup reviews on basses with 250ohm pots? And more specifically is that was is in your 73?
I just ordered a pre wired p bass harness from TAOT (art of tone) with 250 ohm pots as I came across it while ordering something else and figured it would be an easy quick way to see what will work best.

Apologies if you already stated what you are using as I'm little late to this site in general.
Thanks
Rob

Hi Rob. I can't recall whether I mentioned pots in my pickup reviews. Anyway I think your question is a good one.

By default, all my passive bass guitars use 250 k ohm pots. So you can assume that any of my pickup reviews feature those pots. FYI, I never get as far as how 500 k ohm pots sound in a passive bass, since I stop at their short throw (which absolutely does not work well for my playing).

Here is yet another review that may interest you:

A Lollar split coil P pickup completed my ash/maple 1973 Precision Bass P/J

Now almost a year on, lately I'm considering swapping one of my two mid-1970s Fender pickups into that 1973 Precision; the one that snarls and clangs. The Lollar pickup in that bass is so elegant, dignified, and planted. It's a mother. But this fascination with sound is a madness and practically ensures churn.

35 years with one instrument? What planet are you from?! :D Good for you, man. When I dropped music making cold in '96, I divested all my equipment. So now after resuming years later, it's impossible for me to own any gear that I bought 35 years ago.

Good luck with your restoration project. It sounds like the right thing for that instrument.

You might already have a plan for the refinishing. But if not, I can't recommend Pat Wilkins highly enough. He refinished the body of my 1973 Precision, and since that experience I would trust him with any guitar-related work. Pat is great guy, too.

Best,

Snaxster
 
Thanks, and yes I am getting sucked into this pickup madness mainly because I want to get this 72 right. I should have clarified and said that this 72 is the only instrument I never let go in 35+ years. There have been many that came and went. Currently there are like 5 1/2 others around, but the 72 was my first "real" bass after a couple of horrendous copies that I got when I was around 15 from a friend's older brother. It's been the one constant for my entire adult life.

It has the most amazing neck that is part of me at this point but it's a really heavy bass so there have always been others around. I simply can't do a whole night's gig with this on my back without hurting the next day. I've used it for countless hours of playing and recording and for shorter "showcase" gigs for singer songwriters in NYC back in the day.

My dilemma these days is that I have this neck on a different lighter body temporarily as I do all this work on the 72 body and have contemplated having it remain there but as weird as this sounds it seems sacrilegious to have this neck on a different body. I'll restore the body just because it feels like a full circle kind of thing at this point but I'll never sell either the neck or body. However truthfully if I want to go back to using this neck as often as I'd like for gigs I'd have to use it on a different body.

Apologies for rambling into nostalgia.
 
Oh and btw I have heard about Wilkins and hear he does great work. I've been in touch with Marty Bell who is very responsive and informative and am currently planning on going with him. Only he doesn't do the filler work that is needed for some mod routing that was done so I'm having that taken care of first. But thanks fir the heads up.
 
Thanks, and yes I am getting sucked into this pickup madness mainly because I want to get this 72 right. I should have clarified and said that this 72 is the only instrument I never let go in 35+ years. There have been many that came and went. Currently there are like 5 1/2 others around, but the 72 was my first "real" bass after a couple of horrendous copies that I got when I was around 15 from a friend's older brother. It's been the one constant for my entire adult life.

It has the most amazing neck that is part of me at this point but it's a really heavy bass so there have always been others around. I simply can't do a whole night's gig with this on my back without hurting the next day. I've used it for countless hours of playing and recording and for shorter "showcase" gigs for singer songwriters in NYC back in the day.

My dilemma these days is that I have this neck on a different lighter body temporarily as I do all this work on the 72 body and have contemplated having it remain there but as weird as this sounds it seems sacrilegious to have this neck on a different body. I'll restore the body just because it feels like a full circle kind of thing at this point but I'll never sell either the neck or body. However truthfully if I want to go back to using this neck as often as I'd like for gigs I'd have to use it on a different body.

Apologies for rambling into nostalgia.

Oh and btw I have heard about Wilkins and hear he does great work. I've been in touch with Marty Bell who is very responsive and informative and am currently planning on going with him. Only he doesn't do the filler work that is needed for some mod routing that was done so I'm having that taken care of first. But thanks fir the heads up.

It's all good, Rob. :) I hear you about the heavy. If I were a working musician now, I would never consider performing with the 1973 Precision Bass.
 
Hey Snaxter, hope all is well.
So not sure if you recall but I'm having my 72 p bass redone (old routs filled in etc, refinish). And I had read your Lollar review and how it "completed" your 73 p bass. So today a guy on tb just listed a standard Lollar P pickup for $80 (from 2008) and I thought of your thread.
Any thoughts on this that I should ask? FYI I asked him if it still has the same amount of output, his response below:
(Thanks in advance for being my expert in this dept...:)
Rob

It sounds the same as it has since I got it or the change has been subtle and I haven't noticed. It been on my bench for about 18 months as my main band;s leader demands EMG's in all my basses for the bad wiring in Colorado Mountain town bars.

It is not an overly hot pickup and reminds me the most of the Duncan sb1 and definitely different from say a fender custom shop pickup I had, and on the other end from the emg's. I liked it and if you see my other add's sometimes I boosted the signal with an original EBS microbass on an older (90's) P I had it in. If you want both I would try to make a great deal.
 
Hey Snaxter, hope all is well.
So not sure if you recall but I'm having my 72 p bass redone (old routs filled in etc, refinish). And I had read your Lollar review and how it "completed" your 73 p bass. So today a guy on tb just listed a standard Lollar P pickup for $80 (from 2008) and I thought of your thread.
Any thoughts on this that I should ask? FYI I asked him if it still has the same amount of output, his response below:
(Thanks in advance for being my expert in this dept...:)
Rob

It sounds the same as it has since I got it or the change has been subtle and I haven't noticed. It been on my bench for about 18 months as my main band;s leader demands EMG's in all my basses for the bad wiring in Colorado Mountain town bars.

It is not an overly hot pickup and reminds me the most of the Duncan sb1 and definitely different from say a fender custom shop pickup I had, and on the other end from the emg's. I liked it and if you see my other add's sometimes I boosted the signal with an original EBS microbass on an older (90's) P I had it in. If you want both I would try to make a great deal.

Hi Rob. All is as well as can be, thanks. Happy New Year!

Were you asking him if his Lollar P had the same amount now as when it was new? Or as some other pickup?

In my brief experience paying close attention to pickups:

No two handmade pickups are alike, even the same make/model/materials/method, especially if they truly are hand wound (hand guiding a machine) and made on the same day by the same person. Likewise no two guitars, so the possibility for variance in combinations of guitars and pickups can be high.

Conversely, my understanding is that a practical advantage of machine winding pickups is the relative lack of variance. A given make/model will tend to have the exact same reliability, sound, output, etc., regardless of anything, so long as the maker uses the same materials and methods.

My preference is for uniqueness, quirkiness, hidden gems. So I mostly use hand wound pickups to capitalize on their variance and their characteristic sonic traits. The main exceptions for me are 1. some custom pickups from Nordstrand, who models scatter winding as it would be done in a hand wound pickup, then applies that model to machine winding, and 2. Seymour Duncan, who may do the same sort of modeling (I don't know), for some of their Antiquity and Custom Shop pickups.

As for that Lollar P pickup for sale, I would say that if it is in good working order and you'd like to hear its sound, go for it!
 
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Yes thanks. Will likely give this a try. I am really liking the Aguilar I put in another bass recently. I was considering pulling that to try in my 72 when I get it back together to see how that reacts. But having the Lollar around would be a nice comparison and would wind up in one of these 2 basses anyway so it is a low risk issue really.