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Rickenbacker 4001 - - - Love or Hate?

play like butter.
nice to look at.
sound like nothing special.
4001 frets cant handle roundwounds very well.
artificially inflated pricing. these things were a dime a dozen in the early 90's people. i may get another when nobody wants them again and they get cheap.
 
I HATE Rickenbackers, IMO they are all incredibly ugly. The shape is just plain ungainly and they feel unwieldy. The necks suck and the the body just feels bulky with no thought to ergonomics.

I have never understood the love affair with rics.

And I don't understand the hate, either. It's not like I love all basses. I've never cared much for P-basses, but others do, and that's just fine. If it works for them, that's good. Their necks aren't comfortable for me, whereas Ric necks are very comfy for my left hand.

I just don't get why one must hate a bass. Not every bass is going to work for every player.
 
I HATE Rickenbackers, IMO they are all incredibly ugly. The shape is just plain ungainly and they feel unwieldy. The necks suck and the the body just feels bulky with no thought to ergonomics.

I have never understood the love affair with rics.

Does any one really care what one person or another loves or hates? Do I need to be psychologically reassured that my choice of bass is OK? Or did I goof up? "Oh no!! My bass sucks! How can I justify owning it?!?!?" I enjoy constructive criticism just as much as the next guy but a post that borderlines on a tempter tantrum seems a bit disturbed. Someone once said, "I don't know about art but I know what I like." Words of wisedom. I'm very comfortable in my own skin. Hope the rest of you are too. Cheers!!
 
While I'm off work for Christmas, I've played my Oct '92 4003 every chance I've had. And without a doubt it is the best bass that I have ever owned,or could own with the exception of a Rickenbacker Chris Squire limited edition.
One of the things for me about the Rickenbacker 4001/4003 is that all the parts that go into making it gell well together.The large tailpiece & treble pickup,the way the headstock follows the shape of the upper bodyhorn & the way the neck looks longer than it is a fantasticly made bass.

A lot of people/bassists/musicians when they think or resd about Rickenbacker basses, the word that seems to jump out is the Rickenbacker clank sound,and some think that this is how a Ric bass sounds,which was made famous by my personal bass hero Mr. Chris Squire.But what you have to remember is that the ammount of effects that he used to get his sound,so it never sounded like a normal Rickenbacker bass.

I have been guilty in the past of hating Fenders yet now I find myself wanting another Fender P bass.
 
Does any one really care what one person or another loves or hates? Do I need to be psychologically reassured that my choice of bass is OK? Or did I goof up? "Oh no!! My bass sucks! How can I justify owning it?!?!?" I enjoy constructive criticism just as much as the next guy but a post that borderlines on a tempter tantrum seems a bit disturbed. Someone once said, "I don't know about art but I know what I like." Words of wisedom. I'm very comfortable in my own skin. Hope the rest of you are too. Cheers!!

I am a beer, wine and spirits judge and writer for a living so I am never shy about giving my opinion.;)
 
Rickenbacker 4001 - - - Love or Hate?

I love it and hate it ... I love the look and the feel and the tone ... I hate that they are 4 string basses ... I only play 5s.

So I modify my 4 string Rics into 5s.

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Hm.

I had 4001 back in 1978/79. If I remember well, all of my buddies played Fenders and I wanted Ric so badly. The day when I got it, I almost fainted of happiness. I payed cash in some store in London...guy in the store was asking if I need anything else, I just shake my head, went out to the street, sat on the case and almost passed away of happiness. Up to that point I never seen Ric, never had it in my hands. But...kids then and kids now - same thing. I just wanted it because Glen Hughes had it. Seeing it at the cover of "Made in Europe", I knew it's something special.

Appearance was amazing. It was one and only bass I ever wanted so badly. After excitement passed, I discovered (my huge disappointment), it had a very low signal. I had to have much more powerful amp to compete with the rest of the band/colleagues bassists...Than I found my G and d strings we a bit more quieter than A, and E was kind of dull... OK, I managed to change original strings and get a bit better result (Roto Sound). I played with the pick and I was in awe some times how it sounded, specially with Roto sound. I remember having trouble with those metal covers, even hurting myself couple of times. I remember pain I had in my left hand because of that C neck (actually, I think I was just young and undeveloped player - as I am still today, I think). Anyway, every other guy in the city was green of jealousy. I was struggling to play that neck, hurting myself and loving the sound I can get.
Back in a day, we did not know much about "capacitors", different bridges, not even mention to try to replace pick-ups (with what? With Aria or Hagstrom pick ups?). Remember - in the given time there were just 3 major brands - Fender, Gibson And Ric. All other junk was just for "kids" (Teisco? Ibanez? give me a break! Pure Japanese junk...) Some people still think so.... Up to 1995 I even did not know what 5 string is for and how to tune it.. But, thank God I grow up somehow.
Now, I cannot understand how someone can play 4 strings... it's too much work and never get right sound....I am honest to God - I am having huge problem now to play 4 strings bass.... And, than - that small thing call 9V battery in guitar? Well. I have it in every of my guitars. And guess what? In one of them I have even 2 9V batteries! With that guitar I can almost recreate that Ric sound and have even more options than with anything else I ever tried to play. I am very happy owner of Tune bass. I have incredible comfortable neck, wide variety of sounds, almost Ric sound and much more...

Except. I want one jetglo Ric to put in the corner and just to take look on it occasionally.

But, I am not paying $2000+, even if Glenn Hughes, Roger Glover, Stanley Clarke and 300 other bass players come to my door to deliver it. I would pay $500 for guitar and will toss $100 for nostalgia. Otherwise, screw them! I am happy with my Tune, made in Korea.
 
Rickenbacker 4001 - - - Love or Hate?

I love it and hate it ... I love the look and the feel and the tone ... I hate that they are 4 string basses ... I only play 5s.

So I modify my 4 string Rics into 5s.

party09-27s.jpg

Jeff, I love the job you've done converting your Ric basses to 5-bangers. They all look like they came from Santa Ana that way!

...any chance you can post 'em all up here for us "lovers"? :D
 
I've always loved the sound and look, unfortunately I've always found them completely impossible to play. :(


I can relate to that because they do feel very different from a standard "Fender" style bass. The fact that the neck is barely thicker at the body than it is at the nut makes it feel different. The heavily painted and varnished neck (and varnished fingerboard) makes it feel different. The shape of the neck and even the pickup cover (if you leave it on) causes it to feel different.

The other thing I've noticed again and again is that almost every single time I see a Rick in a store, it's set up terribly - with almost unplayably high action. I don't know why this is. My guess would be that maybe most guitar stores don't know how to set up a Rick and don't want to risk screwing it up given its price tag.

Anyway, you can't get a true feel for a Rick if you haven't played one that is set up correctly - and setting up a Rick is different than setting up a Fender or a Musicman. I don't know why, but Ricks basically call for a dead straight neck. Try that with a Fender and it won't work. But if you put relief into a Rick neck you'll get bad action. In any case, they obviously have the "relief" built into the designed angle of the neck, body & bridge - so you don't need to curve the neck (other than maybe the tiniest tiniest amount if at all).

In terms of the feel, I admit it is still different. But if you like the look and the sound I encourage people to sit with it for a day or a weekend. Usually that's all it takes and then you are familiar with the instrument. Also, if the bridge pickup cover gets in your way - just take it off. It's simple. I played for years with mine off and just recently put it back on because I like the look of it so much. It took me about 3 hours to learn to play around it. (Though I admit that it does make popping and slapping nearly impossible).

After years of trying different basses, I have landed on Rickenbackers and Musicmans. I love them both and can play in just about any setting with one or the other (though there are times when only one will do). But pulling out one of my Ricks on a gig is always a thrill because they always get noticed. By musicians. By non-musicians. Doesn't matter - Ricks always get noticed both in sound and in looks.

And a Rick in a hard rock set? Bliss.

In the end, for me the simple fact is; I can't get anything else to sound like a Rick. And a Rick sound is awesome. So why would I not play a Rick?
 
Jeff, I love the job you've done converting your Ric basses to 5-bangers. They all look like they came from Santa Ana that way!

...any chance you can post 'em all up here for us "lovers"? :D

Go to my web site ... http://www.3dentourage.com/425/

Remember I only own 4 Rics ... most of the Rics pictured have been sold or weren't mine.