Rickenbacker copies

[AcousticBass]

rickenfakers look sweet, but come on nothing can match the uber sweet sound of a rickenbacker

 

[nil]

rickenfakers look sweet, but come on nothing can match the uber sweet sound of a rickenbacker

gotta disagree there to a point...yeah, some do suck royally, but a few i've played (including one recently) had the feel and the sound.

but then again even real Rics sound different to each other, my two sound worlds apart.

 

[DOH NUT]

I've seen both bolt on and neckthrough versions with the "ASPEN" name. Also made in the same factory as the others. After playing one, I wouldnt be surprised if somebodys favorite 4003 is a japanese copy with a Ric truss cover. Its gotta be neckthrough, though.

 

[Mark Gollihur]

as for the sound, my faker has real pickups/electronics and RotoSounds, so I doubt it sounds THAT different once it's cranked through an amp...

 

[iamthebassman]

4001's only have a single truss rod, 'cause they were originally designed for lower-tension flatwound strings. The 4003 had two rods to handle roundwound strings. Later 4001's might've had 2 rods installed, dunno about that though.

Yeah, that's exactly wrong.

 

[iamthebassman]

Peter Hook made a pretty good sound with his old 'faker. Here's my current Ric collection:

 

[Blazer]

Peter Hook made a pretty good sound with his old 'faker. Here's my current Ric collection:

Not according to Hook himself who says about his old Hondo (I had an identical one) that it sounded "****e" and with telephone pole for a neck and a plywood body I agree with him.

 

[iamthebassman]

Well I liked it.

 

[MAJOR METAL]

Univox.

 

[Thornton Davis]

Here's some pics of a couple of Greco 4001 copies.

These were made by Fuji Gen-Gakki in Japan.

I never owned or played a Greco Ric 4001 copy. But if it's anything like my Greco Thunderbird IV, they are quality basses.

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[nil]

Yeah, that's exactly wrong.

OK then, qualify an arse statement like that. Check out the history of Rics, you'll find what i've mentioned all over the place. Prove that i've got it backwards and that's fine...

 

[mike_v_s]

I'm still looking for a credible excerpt from The History of Rickenbacker Guitars, but it does indeed state in there that the 4001 has had a dual trussrod system since day one. I imagine you are having just as much difficulty locating a source to back your claim, or you would have done it in your last post.

Mike

 

[nil]

Yeah i've almost given up on finding an absolute statement around much of Ric's stuff...even contacting them directly to find out about my 4008 Redneck turned up nothing - "yeah, they would've been a very limited run...Tom Petty owned one" + a crappy b&w pic of the man holding a 4008.

Not terribly useful!

The single-rod statement comes from numerous posts and comments from Ric players i've read over the years, most from this board.

To be honest I don't care a toss, at the end of the day Ric's trussrod system blows chunks IMO. Wouldn't play any other kind of bass though. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up a CS while they were affordable.

Another thing, anyone ever try stringing a lefty Ric to play right-hand? I love the Mosrite-ish look of an upside-down Ric!

 

[mike_v_s]

The single-rod statement comes from numerous posts and comments from Ric players i've read over the years, most from this board.

Without attempting too sound corrective, I think you may have made an assumption when reading those posts. The Trussrod system was redesigned, but both versions were dual set-ups. Somewhere on the 'net is quote by John Hall stating that the original was designed before newer string technologies brought the tension up (even in flatwounds). The 4003's new system addressed this. As always, someone correct me if I've fudged a detail.

Mike

 

[B'Aces High]

4001's have dual rods. The rods in the 4003 are redone to be stronger.

As for that string tension thing...if you want to read what John Hall said about it...here is a link to an FAQ.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/music/guitars/rickenbacker/section-23.html

 

[nil]

Well there you go then, don't trust the musings of an antipodean!

Maybe I got confused with the 4000 or 4002? Worries...

 

[Blazer]

Another thing, anyone ever try stringing a lefty Ric to play right-hand? I love the Mosrite-ish look of an upside-down Ric!

The only time I saw somebody play one that way was the bass player of a reggae band, probably Black Slate I'm not sure. He got a wonderful deep tone from his rick.

And of course there's Dweezil Zappa's custom double neck Kramer...

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[Blazer]

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Check out the cool custom made Combat guitars Ricky copy from that bassplayer from the Brittish band Feeder.

 

[nil]

Nice upper bout on that Feeder bass! As for Dweezil's "thing", well, looks like an Iceman got to close to the Kramer factory after a dip in Lake Erie and this is it's offspring!

 

[nil]

Received the beast today, in all honesty a piece of cack.

Looks like an Ibanez, no neck p/u, no string mutes, horrific refinish job (including bright red paint over the binding), nut's pretty buggered, etc, etc. Oh well, you win some and you lose some.

But, the body and neck are actually in pretty good condition, so i'm not gonna feel bad about refinishing this, only bummer is that i'll have to find a pickup or two. Haven't plugged it in yet but it doesn't feel or play bad at all, even with it's (currently) high action.

Won't replace my 4003 as the mainstay!