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Robert Zimmerman - Bel Canto Basso, Melodic Studies

Discussion in 'Jazz Technique [DB]' started by Snakewood, May 5, 2006.


  1. Snakewood

    Snakewood Guest

    Dec 19, 2005
    Hey, Does anyone have any knowledge of this book? Useful? My teacher thinks it's a fantastic way to learn the style of Bottesini.
     
  2. your teacher knows best!!
     
  3. lowEndRick

    lowEndRick Supporting Member

    Apr 8, 2006
    CT
    Robert Zimmerman = Bob Dylan
     
  4. Snakewood

    Snakewood Guest

    Dec 19, 2005
    Emmm, Yes. But I'm referring to the bassist of the Rochestor Philharmonic, son of the famed Oscar Zimmerman.
     
  5. lowEndRick

    lowEndRick Supporting Member

    Apr 8, 2006
    CT
    Of course, just a little lighthearted humor.....sorry, I couldn't resist...carry on
     
  6. Machina

    Machina

    Aug 1, 2005
    Didn't Bottesini write a method book of his own? I image this style would be covered in there or is it not?
     
  7. rftbass

    rftbass

    Mar 31, 2004
    Waterford, CT
    Here is the description from the Lemur catalog.
    MIM62 Zimmerman Bel Canto Basso Editor's remarks: For years I've lamented the lack of musical studies written in the lower positions of the double bass. The studies presented here are difficult, both technically and musically, and yet are transcriptions of the vocalizes of Marco Bordogni who was a voice teacher in the first half of the 19th century. They have long been used by trombonists to develop musical phrasing and the ability to sustain a phrase. They are in the style of italian opera; the style in which much of the solo bass literature of Bottesini is written. It should be noted that what appear to be accent marks (>) in all of these studies are not accents. These are a 19th century notational device designed to show where the emphasis appears within a phrase. It is important to emphasize these notes with vibrato and weight. Bottesini's double bass music was full of these marks which were later removed by modern editors who feared that they would be mistaken for accents. I have not removed these markings because they often show the contours of the phrase. The individual piano accompaniments to BEL CANTO; MELODIC STUDIES for the DOUBLE BASS are available through Zimmerman Press. With piano accompaniment, any of these studies would be appropriate on a recital. Robert V. Zimmerman
     
  8. anthem274

    anthem274

    Jul 19, 2003
    Arlington, TX
    In my opinion, the best way to learn the bel canto style would be listening to recordings of Gary Karr. He is famed for how he can make the bass "sing". Bel canto is the Italian operatic singing style. For me, it clicked after hearing Gary play "Elucevan Le Stelle from Tosca Arct 3". It is, after all, Gary playing the melodic vocal parts of the opera.

    I believe that it takes a musical ear to learn a style. I think that marks on a paper can only go so far. If you listen to enough recordings, you will know where the emphasis of a phrase is without the help of accent marks. If you specifically want to learn the style of Bottesini, then I suggest that you buy Joel Quarrington's "Bottesini: Music for the Double Bass".

    There's no better way to learn the style than listening to the style. It's the same way we all learn how to talk, it's the same way we all learn how to whistle, it's the same way we learn to be musical.
     
  9. As said before, bel canto style is Italian, operatic style. My suggestion is to listen to opera singers and try to make your bass sound that way. Go out and get some Andrea Bocelli albums. As my teacher says, pay close attention to the spaces in between the notes.

    If you want to learn bel canto style, go right to the source....maybe play some opera melodies on bass.
     
  10. EFischer1

    EFischer1 Guest

    Mar 17, 2002
    New York, New York
    I recently attended a voice masterclass given by Ubaldo Fabbri, a great authority on the bel canto style. I was lucky enough to be able to understand what he was saying in Italian, as the translator was horrible and added many of her own ideas. After seeing him work with people I am convinced that the best way to learn the bel canto style is to learn it from a singer. I know many players who have taken lessons on the cello suites over the years with great cello teachers. Why, then, can we not learn the bel canto style by perhaps having a lesson with a great singer?
     
  11. rprowse

    rprowse

    Dec 17, 2005
    Wellington NZ
    As Rob Zimmerperson (to be politically correct) once said, and I don't think that he was referring to time signatures, "The times , they are a changin'".
     
  12. Snakewood

    Snakewood Guest

    Dec 19, 2005
    Ehhmm...ZimmerMAN is his family name...you do realize a female can have the surname of MAN as well. How does your reply even conjure up anything relevent to this post? Oi.

    :scowl:
     

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