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Rocksmith/Bandfuse...

Just a quick follow up on beginners using these games - I also post on the Bandfuse and Rocksmith message boards (under the ID "Fiset" which is my Xbox Gamertag) and the following was posted by mmason23 on the Bandfuse forum (reposted here with permission from mmason23):

I have been in live musical performances for more than a Decade now, also in radio. I am new to the guitar and have come to it later in life. Right now is an exciting time for anyone getting into playing the guitar. I have wanted to play all my life, but lacked the dedication to get over the beginner hump. (Sore fingers, boring practice, sounding like snot) now there are two learning tools on the Market, I own them both. Rocksmith 2014 and Band Fuse. After playing RockSmith for an hour a day for 60 days, it has gotten me over the hump. The software has great learning tools. In my preference though Band Fuse is a much more complete learning tool. I like the structured learning path of "tours" and the lesson in my opinion are much clearer. Also it teaches you using real world Tablature. So if you are making the decision between the two Choose Band Fuse first, but get Rocksmith if you can.Second Post in answer to a question of why I like Band Fuse better.Band Fuse uses real scrolling Tablature. For me at least with Tour mode, there is a directed play path of songs and challenges. The learning tutorials and documentaries are in my opinion better. I smoke between sets and I like to hear from the Lead from Social Distortion or Five Finger Death Punch. It's neat to learn their history, tips and tricks! In Rocksmith, I willed my self to play an hour everyday, with Band Fuse I can't wait to play it. Again different strokes for different folks, but I feel that Band fuse is preparing me to play without the training wheels!

I'm not posting this to re-hash anything with RustyAxe - this is more to just further the discussion about how these games are being perceived by beginners and how they can be used as motivation to continue down the path of musicianship.
 
I ordered Rocksmith yesterday and after reading the comments here I'm really looking forward to getting it.

I decided to get it because I want something that will help motivate me to practice. I've started and stopped learning the bass a couple of times in the past but decided 2014 is my year. Gotta do it before I get too old. :)
 
I ordered Rocksmith yesterday and after reading the comments here I'm really looking forward to getting it.

I decided to get it because I want something that will help motivate me to practice. I've started and stopped learning the bass a couple of times in the past but decided 2014 is my year. Gotta do it before I get too old. :)

Cool! Come back and tell us what you think of the game.
 
If you get the songsterr app for your phone it's a one time fee.


I use it it on my android tablet, it is damn good. I like one called tabs by guitar tabs.com, very convenient.

So I've had a chance to have some time with bandfuse and I really like it. I'm still curious about rocksmith and I'm hoping that bandfuse's dlc will be as big someday. The one thing I'm not too big on is the fact that some of the higher difficulty levels are locked. Also, I find I'm playing a lot of the songs a lot. It's quite repetitive. But then again, I guess that's what practice is, repetitive. I hope you can download other effects end amps as well eventually. I'd really dig some more amp sims. Songs of course too but I know they'll come eventually. Great game.
 
I use it it on my android tablet, it is damn good. I like one called tabs by guitar tabs.com, very convenient.

So I've had a chance to have some time with bandfuse and I really like it. I'm still curious about rocksmith and I'm hoping that bandfuse's dlc will be as big someday. The one thing I'm not too big on is the fact that some of the higher difficulty levels are locked. Also, I find I'm playing a lot of the songs a lot. It's quite repetitive. But then again, I guess that's what practice is, repetitive. I hope you can download other effects end amps as well eventually. I'd really dig some more amp sims. Songs of course too but I know they'll come eventually. Great game.

I don't think the difficulties are locked. I noticed some of the songs have only 3 difficulties because the bass isn't that complex.
 
I don't think the difficulties are locked. I noticed some of the songs have only 3 difficulties because the bass isn't that complex.

Thats exactly correct. When I first got the game I, too, was wondering how to unlock the difficulties for bass and found out from the game designers that some of the bass lines were difficult to split up into 5 separate difficulty levels so they only created 3 different levels.

Gregmon - in terms of not wanting to spend bucks for Rocksmith (which I totally understand), I got mine for $40 on sale at Best Buy after Christmas and I'm sure you will be able to get a hold of one even cheaper sometime soon.
 
If you own the original RS, you can import its songs for another $10 import fee. In theory this gives you re-mastered versions, but I hated the fee anyway.

But it is more of the same- mostly metal songs from groups I don't like. I did it anyway, as there are several I do like, and it was cheaper than the $3 DLC prices.

Looking at my mp3 playlists, I see 200+ 80's rock and 250+ recent country songs they are missing...

Partially correct. On the PS3, If you want to use the on-disc songs From RS1, as long as you have an RS1 save on your PS3's HDD (you don't actually need the disc, you could rent or even borrow it to generate a save), all you then have to do is buy the 2014 import pack for ten bucks, and all new updated versions of the songs compatible with 2014 will transfer over. Any RS1 DLC that you bought before or buy now will work with 2014 with no fee attached. I imagine it's similar on Xbox, but on PC there is an issue with Steam where you must actually have the game on your hard drive to even buy the import pack OR DLC. They are currently working to change that.
 
Thats exactly correct. When I first got the game I, too, was wondering how to unlock the difficulties for bass and found out from the game designers that some of the bass lines were difficult to split up into 5 separate difficulty levels so they only created 3 different levels.

Gregmon - in terms of not wanting to spend bucks for Rocksmith (which I totally understand), I got mine for $40 on sale at Best Buy after Christmas and I'm sure you will be able to get a hold of one even cheaper sometime soon.

Someone over at the RS forum mentioned a store selling used copies of RS for like 5 bucks. That, plus the ten dollar import fee means that you would have gotten fifty updated songs for fifteen bucks
 
So I put my money where my mouth is in terms of trying these games as a newbie. I've been playing bass for over 20 years but have never really messed with a regular guitar. Since I've been enjoying these games so much on bass I decided to pick up a cheapy Ibanez guitar and it arrived today so I just spent some time playing Bandfuse with a guitar and even though I totally suck, I'm already getting the hang of it (although I don't know that I'll ever get used to these small strings!).

I went through some of the tutorials and I don't care what anyone else says....these games are great for beginners and experienced players alike. I enjoy them as an experienced bass player and now I'm going to spend a ton of time working with them as a newbie guitar player. Sweet!
 
So I put my money where my mouth is in terms of trying these games as a newbie. I've been playing bass for over 20 years but have never really messed with a regular guitar.

I did the same thing as you, A Strohman. Although I did it with yet another entry to this lesson/computer method of teaching - http://www.rockprodigy.com/. I've tried Rocksmith 1 and it was fun for awhile; haven't tried BandFuse yet, but I might.

Rock Prodigy has a very clean "note highway" and has a measured, step-by-step approach to building your skillset. If you go to their "Buy Now" page, you can download the first two lessons for free to try out their methodology. You may argue that there's nothing there for bass, and you are right, although they are working on Rock Prodigy for bass. Unfortunately, they can't give us a time line on that. (I've asked.) I have no affiliation to any of these games, just somehow stumbled onto Rock Prodigy while thinking of learning guitar, and I liked it.

So yes, right now it's only for guitar; someday they'll launch the bass version. Until then, I may have to try BandFuse for bass.
 
I picked up RS1 off of eBay for $10 shipped. Should be here tomorrow. I'll update to see how importing the old songs goes. I play on an Xbox 360.

I've been running through the lessons on RS and love the riff repeater to nail parts down at a slow speed and then work to play full speed. I've had to adjust my technique to get it right and from looking at other online tutorials I think I am moving towards a more proper technique. Sloppy is OK when you are playing easy stuff but nailing hammer ons, pull offs and slides my technique needs to be better.

Plus I'm actually practicing and having fun doing it.
 
I;m learning Man in the Box on Rocksmith and they have some slides in that song. RS suggested I play the guitarcade slide game to get better at it.

Slides hurt my fingers. I also find it very hard to slide to lower frets from fret 4 and lower. It is like an awkward angle for my wrist and Rocksmith usually tells me to slide faster.

How do you make slides cleaner? I feel like maybe I am pushing too hard on the string while sliding b ut I don't want to get the string rattling from pushing too lightly.