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ron asheton's bass playing on raw power

pretty phenomenal really, as well as overlooked.

must have taken a lot of humility to have been 'relegated' from guitar to bass.

the bass line on 'search and destroy' in particular, is fantastic! maybe it's something only a guitar player could have come up with?

i was curious to know what kind of bass he played and it looks like a precision fitted with a jazz neck.

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anyways, i'm going hog-wild trying to get his bass lines down and it's proving harder than i expected...
 
pretty phenomenal really, as well as overlooked.

must have taken a lot of humility to have been 'relegated' from guitar to bass.

the bass line on 'search and destroy' in particular, is fantastic! maybe it's something only a guitar player could have come up with?

i was curious to know what kind of bass he played and it looks like a precision fitted with a jazz neck.

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anyways, i'm going hog-wild trying to get his bass lines down and it's proving harder than i expected...
That’s probably what was used on the album, but he also employed a Guild JS-II, which is like an improved Gibson EB-3…
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As well as this early 70’s budget EB(I forgot the actually name of the series, I once had an SG of that type, no big whoop)…
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pretty phenomenal really, as well as overlooked.

must have taken a lot of humility to have been 'relegated' from guitar to bass.

the bass line on 'search and destroy' in particular, is fantastic! maybe it's something only a guitar player could have come up with?

i was curious to know what kind of bass he played and it looks like a precision fitted with a jazz neck.

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anyways, i'm going hog-wild trying to get his bass lines down and it's proving harder than i expected...
So that Gibson bass model was the SB 400, definitely a budget thing…
Like I mentioned, I ended up with a guitar version, the SG 200, to mess around on for cheap back in the 80’s, not much love for those. But they fetch stupid money(for what they are)today.
 
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Perhaps "overlooked" on that album because of the notoriously bright mix, said to be influenced by the same stuff caused Bowie to be named, "The Thin White Duke".

There are at least two re-mixes, and the latter-day Iggy re-mix is my preferred, altho' it's still not optimal, mebbe never can be.

I kinda prefer the mud of Fun House, which was recorded to include the live PA they were monitoring off of (if memory serves, which damage mine suffers not from that particular issue of substance for which I never hadda, ... lust).

Also, gotta mention, pretty sure* "The Passenger" was solo Iggy with the Sales bro's rhythm section, they who were not only the comedian's kids, but re-appeared years later in Tin Machine with the amazing Gabrels on lead.

*I could look it up, but so can you; pretty sure, say 4-1, I'm correct.
 
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Perhaps "overlooked" on that album because of the notoriously bright mix, said to be influenced by the same stuff caused Bowie to be named, "The Thin White Duke".

There are at least two re-mixes, and the latter-day Iggy re-mix is my preferred, altho' it's still not optimal, mebbe never can be.

I kinda prefer the mud of Fun House, which was recorded to include the live PA they were monitoring off of (if memory serves, which damage mine suffers not from that particular issue of substance for which I never hadda, ... lust).

Also, gotta mention, pretty sure* "The Passenger" was solo Iggy with the Sales bro's rhythm section, they who were not only the comedian's kids, but re-appeared years later in Tin Machine with the amazing Gabrels on lead.

*I could look it up, but so can you; pretty sure, say 4-1, I'm correct.
Funhouse, the Stooges’ second album, featured the original incarnation of the band, which meant that Ron was on guitar, and Dave Alexander still on bass. Produced by Don Gallucci, the guy that played keyboards on the Kingsmen’s infamous version of “Louie Louie”, the band was recorded live in a room, no baffles/gobos for instrument separation, and yes, Iggy singing through a crude PA. All to get a spontaneous raw feel, with minimal guitar overdubs and an added sax player.
After subsequently being dropped by the Elektra label, the band had some personnel upheaval, guitarist James Williamson was added and ended up being the only instrumentalist/writer working with Pop. Longtime fan David Bowie, in his Ziggy-era heyday, used his clout to get them signed to Columbia Records, Ron and his drummer brother Scott were brought back into the fold, but with Asheton relegated to bass. The result was this punk blueprint, Raw Power, recorded in London, but it too died the death. The band sputtered to an end.
A few years later, after Iggy kicked a heroin habit, Bowie took him to Berlin on the cusp of the actual punk explosion to record the much different sounding The Idiot and Lust For Life albums, cold and electronic-ish stuff that actually anticipated post-punk. Those are the ones featuring the Sales Brothers rhythm section(coming from working with Todd Rundgren).
 
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There are at least two re-mixes, and the latter-day Iggy re-mix is my preferred, altho' it's still not optimal, mebbe never can be.
i initially loved the iggy remix because it brought the bass forward, but really it suffers from being (intentionally) too loud and distorted.

these days i prefer the bowie mix, but i wish there was something in-between the two mixes because it's almost criminal to have asheton's playing so buried.
 
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pretty phenomenal really, as well as overlooked.

must have taken a lot of humility to have been 'relegated' from guitar to bass.

the bass line on 'search and destroy' in particular, is fantastic! maybe it's something only a guitar player could have come up with?

i was curious to know what kind of bass he played and it looks like a precision fitted with a jazz neck.

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anyways, i'm going hog-wild trying to get his bass lines down and it's proving harder than i expected...
Because of this thread, I went back to the Metallic KO album, which I hadn’t listened to in ages, in spite of it being essentially bootleg quality. But here, on a different period recording, Ron’s bass is upfront and clear(as can be expected)…