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Both aspects I mentioned, based on the OP really asing two distinct questions in one, are "bingo", if I say so myself.Bingo
If I had flats on a bass and really needed it to sound like rounds, could I use a driver pedal or a fuzz or even eq to get the more growly tone?
Reading comprehension isn't everybody's strong suit but I'm sure you're good at other thingsBoth aspects I mentioned, based on the OP really asing two distinct questions in one, are "bingo", if I say so myself.
But thanks
lolReading comprehension isn't everybody's strong suit
If you want a "classic" tone, put flats on the P, tone knob to taste, and you're covered. But there's no rules--you can do whatever you want. Lately I show up to most situations with a P with rounds and Jazz with flats--the opposite of what many think is conventional wisdom for those two basses.I've heard that flatwounds occupy less frequencies and sit better in the mix apparently... What if I'm trying to get a more classic tone? Do I just roll the tone knob off?
Well, flats do "sound like bass", you got that right. But saying they're favored mostly by beginners is one of the most wrong things I've ever read on TB, and that's sayin' something! Unless all those top session players like Pino, Sean Hurley, Chris Chaney, et al. are wet-behind-the-ear noobies....It seems like the biggest group of players who loves flats are beginners because flats sounds like bass and very forgiving with less string noise.
“There are great players who love flats. There are many good players who love flats and both groups can make the instruments sing,”Well, flats do "sound like bass", you got that right. But saying they're favored mostly by beginners is one of the most wrong things I've ever read on TB, and that's sayin' something! Unless all those top session players like Pino, Sean Hurley, Chris Chaney, et al. are wet-behind-the-ear noobies....
Was replying to your statement "the biggest group of players who loves flats are beginners...".“There are great players who love flats. There are many good players who love flats and both groups can make the instruments sing,”
Did you read what I said or you just registered flats and beginners and saw red.
Yes. Then turn the tone up and you'll have a bright set of flats that won't be exactly the same sound as rounds, but the closest you'll get from a set of flats IME.Does it still sound like a flat if I roll the tone off a bit?
I used flats as a beginner because they came on my first bass, a Gibson EBO. Six years later, I switched to rounds. Twenty years after that, as a very experienced player, I tried flats again and loved what they did in a mix. For the twenty-eight years after THAT, I've been using either rounds or flats, depending on the personnel, the room, the material, etc. So, respectfully, I think your "most people who love flats are beginners" theory doesn't hold up, especially since the basses in Squier starter packs come with rounds, and the kids don't know any better, for a while.There are great players who love flats. There are many good players who love flats and both groups can make the instruments sing. It seems like the biggest group of players who loves flats are beginners because flats sounds like bass and very forgiving with less string noise.
My personal experience, is most bassists would have one maybe 2 with flats but the rest with rounds. TI Flats are another story altogether.
I'm not a beginner, I don't prefer flats over rounds. I'm also on a bass lesson forum and it's been my experience that when the infamous topic of Round VS Flats which one to choose?" Many new players, especially older one, want to change their Squiers or Yamaha TRBX to flats because of the "preferred" bass tone and not the other way around. Better players seems to want to talk more specific about what brand and models of string.Was replying to your statement "the biggest group of players who loves flats are beginners...".
Yeah, its really not though.. such a comedian!Rounds will sound better on both of them. In fact, any bass will sound better with rounds - it's just a fact. Look it up.
I've been playing on my £200 Aria STB for a few years and recently picked up a used Fender Player P Bass. I have I have Rotosound 77 flatwounds on my Aria and my P bass came with rounds. This might be a stupid question but should i put rounds on my Aria and put flats on my Fender instead? I guess what I'm asking is is there any difference between the better pickups on the Fender compared to the Aria or anything that would mean flats or rounds would sound better on one of them? I was thinking perhaps the higher quality pickup on the Fender gives more crispness to the growl of the rounds and since the flats just make a thumpy deep sound i dont need too much clarity so I could leave them on the cheaper Aria.
All true but a lot of "not bass players" don't realize they are even hearing flats in a recording to know the difference.Rounds on a PB is a highly underrated experience. I’ve used them exclusively for almost 50 years. Funny, in all that time, all those gigs and recoding sessions, not to mention all the musicians I’ve played with, I’ve never once heard anyone suggest that they would like my tone better if I had flats.
That said, it’s your bass, your art, and your ears you have to please. Use what sounds good to you.
My advice here is based on the principle that bass strings do not come with a lifetime commitment. If you have a set that doesn’t “get it”, get another set. They aren’t that expensive considering what an impact it can make with your tone and your satisfaction.
Good point. Or even why there is a difference for that matter.All true but a lot of "not bass players" don't realize they are even hearing flats in a recording to know the difference.
Look at dis, eh? Dean Merkley Blue Steel? He needed da money! Oh!Yeah, its really not though.. such a comedian!
Rounds sound good on many things but I would not say everything. I could not find a set of rounds that sounded good on the SR300 I used to have and I tried a lot of different strings. It did like flats though. Once I said the hell with it and tried a set of Deep Talkin' Flats on it, it became a useful studio bass. It wasn't the slapper I bought it to be but it founds its nicheTO ME..... flats are ideal to getting a great unique sound out of a P-bass, Rickenbacker and/or G&L L1000.
Rounds sound good on everything. Including P-bass, Rickenbacker and L1000s.