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S.U.B. Club

#21
Holdsg said:
Ian, did yours come without the control plate over the pots, or did you remove it?

Sports utility bass makes about as much sense as "Dargie Delight" or SLO Special.:rollno:

Of course, I have heard others say SUBs are so named because they are "substitutes" for the real basses. We don't like people like that, do we?:hmm:
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its a SUB Sterling
a different bass altogether with a slimmer neck profile
and smaller body

Dargie is named after Dargin which in turn is a nickname for one of Sterling Ball's sons
SLO stands for San Luis Obispo where Ernie Ball cranks out basses and guitars

I think most people who write off the SUB as substitutes are missing the point of the SUB
is a pretty neat niche bass:
old school slab body
old school 2 band EQ
active or passive pre depending on your model

these are qualities that some ppl are really craving for
so much that EBMM has released the new Classic series

Here we have essentially the same deal except without
the fancier finish, bridge mute, string through body, and in some of the older SUBs the compensated nut (I have one of the last models of the SUB with the comp nut)

Down the road I think the SUB will be a nice model to have in the collection as far as something that was put out by EBMM in a limited run.
 
#23
Holdsg said:
sorry for the ignorance, but what's a compensated nut?
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...shutting my potty mouth... :smug:

It's basically an nut that has slight offsets in the scale length to improve intonation and chordal intervals - typically for higher-fret chords on bass, which is why you see them far more on guitars, as you hear hardly any difference below the 12th fret and on the lower strings.

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As for your questions re: my bass, yellofury nailed it. It's the SUB version of their Sterling bass, which is EB/MM's "Jazz" to their StingRay's Precision - tighter nut, thinner neck and slightly smaller body, and a differently-made, more midrange pickup and preamp. Also, at least SLO is an actual acronym and "Dargie Delight" has a backstory that makes sense... "SUB" is just "wha"?
 
#24
Ian Perge said:
...shutting my potty mouth... :smug:

It's basically an nut that has slight offsets in the scale length to improve intonation and chordal intervals - typically for higher-fret chords on bass, which is why you see them far more on guitars, as you hear hardly any difference below the 12th fret and on the lower strings.

recessed_string_nut.jpg


As for your questions re: my bass, yellofury nailed it. It's the SUB version of their Sterling bass, which is EB/MM's "Jazz" to their StingRay's Precision - tighter nut, thinner neck and slightly smaller body, and a differently-made, more midrange pickup and preamp. Also, at least SLO is an actual acronym and "Dargie Delight" has a backstore that makes sense... "SUB" is just "wha"?
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thanks for adding to my knowledge store. Yes, compensated nut sounded kind of painful at first. :D
 
#25
SUB club,
Sorry for the noob questions, but I noticed after playing some on that on the SUB I just acquired, that the pickup posts for the A and D strings are raised (stick up from the body of the pickup). Is that normal, in your guys experience?

Can I lower them easily?, because I am finding my favorite plucking position is directly over the pickup, and I am not getting enough "dig" space between the pickup and string. I don't necessarily want to lower the pickup, or raise the action, but just the posts. Any suggestions is very much appreciated.
 
#26
Hey guys, I'm so glad this thread exists. I currently play a Yamaha Attitude Standard-5 and have found a EB MM SUB (4 string) about 2 hrs away from where I live. I was thinking of trying to trade my Yamaha for this SUB since I play a lot of funk and pop/slap and find the Yamaha to be more of a rock n roll type bass. They're comparable in price and I'm pretty sure I know how people will react to this but:

Do you think I should try to trade my Yamaha 5 string for the EB MM SUB?
 
#27
GroovinOnFunk said:
Hey guys, I'm so glad this thread exists. I currently play a Yamaha Attitude Standard-5 and have found a EB MM SUB (4 string) about 2 hrs away from where I live. I was thinking of trying to trade my Yamaha for this SUB since I play a lot of funk and pop/slap and find the Yamaha to be more of a rock n roll type bass. They're comparable in price and I'm pretty sure I know how people will react to this but:

Do you think I should try to trade my Yamaha 5 string for the EB MM SUB?
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If it works for what you currently play then I say go for it
they do have SUB 5s out there too. Try to play one if you can before you trade.

If anything you can save for a MIM Fender Jazz 5 to replace the Attitude later on
 
#28
I've played it before and really like it. I was going to try to save for a stingray and i know for sure that's one of my ideal basses to own. unfortunately times are tough now and my income isnt much so saving up isnt even much of an option. I don't mind going from a 5 to 4 string all that much I suppose. It'll bring up the value of my yamaha so hopefully I can do an even trade. I'm leaning more and more towards doing this deal, I just gotta see what the guy is willing to offer me for my Yamaha.
 
#29
Holdsg said:
SUB club,
Sorry for the noob questions, but I noticed after playing some on that on the SUB I just acquired, that the pickup posts for the A and D strings are raised (stick up from the body of the pickup). Is that normal, in your guys experience?

Can I lower them easily?, because I am finding my favorite plucking position is directly over the pickup, and I am not getting enough "dig" space between the pickup and string. I don't necessarily want to lower the pickup, or raise the action, but just the posts. Any suggestions is very much appreciated.
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Mine are raised as well
but curiously I had to lower my pickup to balance out the tone
To me it sounded better lowered but I did raise the G side of the pickup closer to counteract the loss in volume of the G string side of the MM pickup

The only thing I can think of outside of getting a new pickup is to either raise the action of your saddles or lower the pickup
 
#30
Oh man... I'm getting so excited. I'm this close |------------------| to getting my new SUB. I'm trying to swap my Yamaha 5-string and Ashdown dual band compressor pedal for it straight up. Should know by the end of the day. Woohoo!

What do I have to do to join the S.U.B CLUB after I get one?
 
#31
Im in, for now.

I recently acquired a Sub in a trade for my old HW1 Jazz.
I'd been thinking about getting a Sr4 of some sort but couldn't afford to make a mistake, and had never played a MM bass before.
Now it gets 50% of my gigs but i am hoping to get a Ray34 in the next week or so.
I love the Sub but dont like the feel of the paint on the neck. I have also noticed some of the frets have gaps underneath them.

Just the two pics as there are already pics of this finish, even though it has a much nicer pick guard.

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To the poster asking about the raised pole pieces. I have found that my G string is getting lost at gigs so i took a hammer :hiding: to the A and D. just a couple of gentle taps and down they went. I now have a better, more even tone across all 4 stings.
 
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#32
Well, so it looks like this is really going to happen. Either tomorrow or Saturday I'm going to trade my bass in for a SUB. I'm nervous and excited. I wonder if I'll miss that low B string more than I anticipate. That and I overall just wonder if the guy is asking for too much for it. I'm giving up my Bass and 2 fx peds (one of which doesn't work) including an Ashdown dual band compressor. I needed the compressor with my Yamaha to add some punch to the tone and usually flipped it on whenever I did any slapping/popping. I'm hoping that by getting a funky bass like the SUB I won't need the compressor because from what I've heard/read, the SUB Stingray has tons of punch to it naturally.
I guess I have another day or so to think about this. Ultimately, I think it's a worthwhile trade given that I play a lot of funk, reggae, and rock.
 
#33
Well the average is between 400-650 dollars depending on condition
do you think its a fair deal?
If anything this will help you test the Musicman waters
If this turns out to be your thing and still miss the low B you can trade up to a SUB5 or a Ray35

I dont think you will need a compressor for volume or punch as this bass
has that in spades. This is the first bass I have owned where the sound guy
told me to turn DOWN the volume on the bass for fear of blowing the house speakers
If anything I would have used the compressor to even the volume between the highs and lows. Still running clean and for what you have planned I think you will be happy.

Just remember the treble and bass are boost only on this bass so a little does ALOT.
It also means you can go to many extremes on the SUB. From mellow to in your face crunch.
 
#35
Well, he is asking for $550 for the bass (in like new condition) and it has a tortoise shell (the white pearly one) pickguard instead of the metal one (which is nice because I was going to replace that metallic looking standard pguard first thing anyway). I realistically think that my bass in it's current condition is only worth about $350-$400 so I think it's a legit deal. Still tough to be 100% sure you know? That and I have to borrow a car to do the 2 hr drive each way to go get it so I really want to be sure (though I think I'm already at that point). I also understand that cash is king and being that I have none of that to contribute toward the bass, it's reasonable if I have to trade in a little bit higher value than what I receive.

My point exactly, I'll be getting rid of a B-string which I rarely use, a bass who's sound I'm merely satisfied with, a compressor pedal which I probably won't need anymore, and a pedal which doesn't work and I never intended on fixing.

Sounds ok to me. Basically all it will cost me monetarily is the gas to go there and back (unless he decides to be a d!ck when I get there and try to squeeze more out of me.)

Sorry for rambling... helps to think out loud and get good feedback from fellow bass brothers!
 

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