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Santa brings GK MB800!

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barrywomb

Sep 24, 2010
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#1
Santa was awesome to me this year and I got a GK MB800 head. AWESOME!

I currently have a GK MB115 combo that I really like, but there are times when it's just not loud enough without it distorting.

My question (and I know that there are similar threads out there, so please forgive me if I'm asking something for the gazillionth time) why WOULDN'T I just go for the GK 800 watt, 400 Ohm, 410 Geo Cab? Seems that'd give me all my watts in a single cabinet.

I see many saying go for the Neo 212-II cabinet (is this the 600 watt version, if so, then I'm not getting all I can out of my amp, right?). This'd mean I'd need to buy 2 of them but still wouldn't get the full 800 watts. So why is that recommended by you guys? Is that in case you want to have 2 cabs on stage, if so, then wouldn't those only be 300 Watts apiece?

NOT THAT I NEED 800 WATTS, but it'd be nice to have something for outdoor gigs that'd give me plenty of headroom.
(and I did read the FAQ with the ohm info, btw).

Is the MB800 overkill for casinos and clubs?

Thanks for any guidance you can toss out.
 
#2
Well first speakers "make" sound, watts don't. The 4 ohm 800 watt cab is in danger of being damaged as that MB800 can actually make over 1,000 watts on burst and 804 continuous. That is over the input capability of the 410. The MB800 with the 212NEO would still be overkill for casinos and and most clubs but more manageable. The MB800 can overpower and kill the 212 NEO by the way at 8 ohms (560 watts cont. and well over 600 burst) and has for a few people. The amp has a ton of power.
If you get two 8 ohm NEO 212 II's you will have more than enough for outdoor gigs. Two 8 ohm cabs make a 4 ohm load for the amp and will share 800 watts (400 watts each) and over 1,000 watts burst (500 watts each). Cabs don't "make" wattage, amps do.
 
#4
"get two 8 ohm NEO 212 II's". :bassist:

The single cab will get you through most gigs, just watch the bass knob (when things get loud) while targeting more low mids. After all Bob Gallien himself says "the bass guitar is a mid-range instrument".

Then bring the second one for loud gigs. My personal reccomendation is bring both and leave one in the car unless you need it.

Another really cool option is a pair of super 12" cabs like Baer, ACME, etc... Now you combine ease-of-transport with amazing tone and volume.

:cool:
 
#5
barrywomb said:
Santa was awesome to me this year and I got a GK MB800 head. AWESOME!

I currently have a GK MB115 combo that I really like, but there are times when it's just not loud enough without it distorting.

My question (and I know that there are similar threads out there, so please forgive me if I'm asking something for the gazillionth time) why WOULDN'T I just go for the GK 800 watt, 400 Ohm, 410 Geo Cab? Seems that'd give me all my watts in a single cabinet.

I see many saying go for the Neo 212-II cabinet (is this the 600 watt version, if so, then I'm not getting all I can out of my amp, right?). This'd mean I'd need to buy 2 of them but still wouldn't get the full 800 watts. So why is that recommended by you guys? Is that in case you want to have 2 cabs on stage, if so, then wouldn't those only be 300 Watts apiece?

NOT THAT I NEED 800 WATTS, but it'd be nice to have something for outdoor gigs that'd give me plenty of headroom.
(and I did read the FAQ with the ohm info, btw).

Is the MB800 overkill for casinos and clubs?

Thanks for any guidance you can toss out.
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Dude,

Don't get too hung up on the power-handling specs of the cabs. In real-world practice, you'll never get close to those output levels - not without destroying your speakers anyway.

By far the more important consideration is the total amount of volume (SPL) you'll need to cover your gigs, which in turn should determine the size, number & performance quality of your cabinets, as well as the total amount of power you'll have at your disposal.

OK? :eyebrow: So put that horse back in front of the cart!

MM
 
#6
Right, never mind all the numbers, and forget about "getting all the watts" from your amp. Instead, unless you're getting a large cab, like a 2x15 or 8x10, buy a good 8 ohm cab, and see what that does for you. Should be plenty loud. Want even louder? Get a 2nd identical 8 ohm cab, and wear earplugs.
800 watts into a single 4 ohm 410 will only get you blown speakers, so just put that fantasy away, and go with the 8 ohm cabs.
 

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