Schroeder 1210PL - how does it handle the low B?

[fourstringbliss]

For any of you who know, how does the Schroeder 1210PL handle the low B?

Thanks!

 

[Passinwind]

For any of you who know, how does the Schroeder 1210PL handle the low B?

Thanks!

Seemed fine to me. I can double check later this week or soon thereafter when I go visit my luthier friend who owns one. He liked it enough to use it in his NAMM booth a time or two, FWIW.

 

[fourstringbliss]

Seemed fine to me. I can double check later this week or soon thereafter when I go visit my luthier friend who owns one. He liked it enough to use it in his NAMM booth a time or two, FWIW.

Thanks!

 

[jnewmark]

I don't have that model, but I do have the 15PL. I had a 5 stringer sit in one night and it sounded fine, at what I would call " medium " volume.

 

[Teck_Instructor]

A bit of history about Schroeder cabs, as I guess it from a conversation I had with Jorg. He didn't say this specifically, but did mention some differences between generations of cabs, so this is my "reading between the lines". The generations/versions of Schroeders:

1. First generation (many have angled baffles): Smaller size for number of speakers, bass lower mid hump to cut through the mix. You love the lower mid hump or you hate it.
   
2. Second generation: triangular port(s), still tuned higher than 3rd generation (2nd gen ~55 Hz), so lower mid hump still present, also built lighter than 1st generation.
3. Third generation: rectangular port, tuning has been lowered for better power handling and also gives highER fidelity - mid hump not as present. The pictures on the website are mostly 2nd gen (triangular ports), but will actually come with a rectangular port.

I would say that the 3rd gen handles a lower B very well, even at high volumes. The first two gens would be absolutely fine up to mid volume, but get a little floppy at high volume (like hearing protection needed levels).

I could not afford new cabs, so I bought a 2nd gen 212PL and modified it. When I test my cabs, I also do some tests at very high volume, before and after modification. I lowered the tuning, so tuning is more like a gen 3. It made the lowest notes much cleaner at very high volumes. I made a couple of other mods to the cab. Love it. Get lots of complements.

2 cents: no more, no less.

 

[fourstringbliss]

A bit of history about Schroeder cabs, as I guess it from a conversation I had with Jorg. He didn't say this specifically, but did mention some differences between generations of cabs, so this is my "reading between the lines". The generations/versions of Schroeders:

1. First generation (many have angled baffles): Smaller size for number of speakers, bass lower mid hump to cut through the mix. You love the lower mid hump or you hate it.
   
2. Second generation: triangular port(s), still tuned higher than 3rd generation (2nd gen ~55 Hz), so lower mid hump still present, also built lighter than 1st generation.
3. Third generation: rectangular port, tuning has been lowered for better power handling and also gives highER fidelity - mid hump not as present. The pictures on the website are mostly 2nd gen (triangular ports), but will actually come with a rectangular port.

I would say that the 3rd gen handles a lower B very well, even at high volumes. The first two gens would be absolutely fine up to mid volume, but get a little floppy at high volume (like hearing protection needed levels).

I could not afford new cabs, so I bought a 2nd gen 212PL and modified it. When I test my cabs, I also do some tests at very high volume, before and after modification. I lowered the tuning, so tuning is more like a gen 3. It made the lowest notes much cleaner at very high volumes. I made a couple of other mods to the cab. Love it. Get lots of complements.

2 cents: no more, no less.

Great info!

This is the 1210pl that I've got, so it looks like I got a gen 3:

 

[musicmansf]

I got this exact cab for not throwing my back out while gigging knowing I'd be compromising what I like in the studio, so take this with a grain of salt, but I was in a room with a run-of-the-mill Ashdown 410 last weekend and side by side with the same amp, the Ashdown just annihilated the Schroeder's low end extension (yes, I know there's two more speakers). I'd imagine a low B would be much the same.

IMO, it's a mix of the cab being not as deep dimension-wise and insulated as most makers, but again, pointing to my back here.

If most venues you play are going to take DI to the PA for your lows, you'll enjoy the 1210's presence as a stage monitor.