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[Count Bassie]

I'm just boldface asking for a little opinion about the older Schroeder 1212r. I like the idea of smallish and powerful... I hear a lot about low-mid bump with the older, slant-baffle med cabs. How distracting has that been concerning dialing in with a band?

 

[Passinwind]

I'm just boldface asking for a little opinion about the older Schroeder 1212r. I like the idea of smallish and powerful... I hear a lot about low-mid bump with the older, slant-baffle med cabs. How distracting has that been concerning dialing in with a band?

I had the 1210 and gigged it with seveal bands. The mid bump was very distracting if that wasn't the native voicing you wanted. IME no amount of EQ could "fix" it, but OTOH if it worked for you it was a pretty great solution. Jorg has plenty of new designs that are small and powerful now, I'd be looking there personally.

 

[Count Bassie]

Thanks, that's a good straight-up answer.

 

[Passinwind]

Thanks, that's a good straight-up answer.

Jorg's a good egg and it's well worth pinging him directly. We had a couple of his newer cabs and one of my amps paired in my friend's NAMM booth a few years ago, it was a whole different thing than the old slant cabs. I also had one of the slanted 21012 beasts for a while, which was much flatter sounding but by no means light and easy to haul

 

[Count Bassie]

Jorg's a good egg and it's well worth pinging him directly. We had a couple of his newer cabs and one of my amps paired in my friend's NAMM booth a few years ago, it was a whole different thing than the old slant cabs. I also had one of the slanted 21012 beasts for a while, which was much flatter sounding but by no means light and easy to haul

I'll do it, thanks!

 

[Jack]

I keep up with Jorg on Facebook and I can report that he's 100% happy to help, answer questions and support his product. IME his cabs tend to sound very....dramatic(?)...when played solo but they're well-thought out tools that are completely voiced and designed for live use. Loud and in a mix they make complete sense.

 

[Count Bassie]

Thanks, I have emailed him, I'm on Facebook so that makes some sense.

 

[jonesn4bass]

I gigged a 1212R for a good number of years. It definitely has a mid-forward bump to it. It wasn't the greatest of tones playing solo, but it sat extremely nicely with my band. It had no problem cutting through two guitars and loud drummer, and the tone really sat well in the mix for a modern rock band. I liked it a lot.

 

[skyline_01]

I had one of the older slanted 21012 cabs for close to 10 years and really liked it. It could handle gobs of power and cut through the room like a knife. I never thought that there was an unpleasant mid bump... it seemed just right.

I sadly had to sell it a few years back when I lost a job and had to pay insurance out of pocket for a couple months.

 

[waver]

I bought a Mini 12+L a few months ago. So far I like it a lot. Small, lightweight, very clear sound, and plenty of volume. I’m using a Quilter Bass Block.

Due to COVID I haven’t gigged with it, but my band has had a couple of fairly loud outdoor jam sessions, and right away my guitar player said “I can hear what you’re playing now.” (Granted, I was playing through a Fender Rumble 500 combo before. Seemed like no matter what I did I was getting a boomy sound that was getting lost in the drums and keyboards.)

 

[Freddy T]

I have a slant 1210R that I still use from time to time. In terms of dialing in with a band, the cab sounds great, and it's very efficient and loud. Regarding the mid-bump voicing, to me it's no prob, I just adjust my tone, eq, and attack to work with it depending on the room and the musical vibe - just like anyone would do with a given set of equipment. While some view the mid bump voicing as a negative trait, my experience is that it allows everything you play to be naturally (and musically) prominent in the band mix - you can't hide in the background with this cab. Worst thing I would say about my 1210R is that the tone isn't sexy, but the best thing I would say is that it really handles business at gigs. I understand the 1212R is a bit deeper in tone than the 1210R.

 

[Count Bassie]

I have a slant 1210R that I still use from time to time. In terms of dialing in with a band, the cab sounds great, and it's very efficient and loud. Regarding the mid-bump voicing, to me it's no prob, I just adjust my tone, eq, and attack to work with it depending on the room and the musical vibe - just like anyone would do with a given set of equipment. While some view the mid bump voicing as a negative trait, my experience is that it allows everything you play to be naturally (and musically) prominent in the band mix - you can't hide in the background with this cab. Worst thing I would say about my 1210R is that the tone isn't sexy, but the best thing I would say is that it really handles business at gigs. I understand the 1212R is a bit deeper in tone then the 1210R.

There seems to be a consistency in the reviews, which I take as a positive. Thanks for your remarks, adds to my conclusion I think. If this goes down I'll post my impressions too...

 

[pbassnut]

I'm just boldface asking for a little opinion about the older Schroeder 1212r. I like the idea of smallish and powerful... I hear a lot about low-mid bump with the older, slant-baffle med cabs. How distracting has that been concerning dialing in with a band?

I once had that cabinet. It was small and powerful, but I really didn't dig the tone all that much and eventually sold it. Not recommended.

 

[JohnnyPustular]

I've been using an older 1210L with a Phil Jones head for a few years. It sits very nicely in the mix for the type of music I play (Arabic jazz), sounds very musical, and articulate. It looks like there is a variety of opinions, though, so you should probably see if you can test one out. I love mine.

 

[Dynacord]

I still use (well, up until our new pandemic reality) a 1212L and like the mid quality and have always found it to sound great in the mix - relative to what I like. Bought it 15 years ago, have used some other cabs but that's the one I most often go back to when wanting a single cab that's small and loud. I like the character it imparts though agree it's not neutral.

 

[Ellery]

Check out Schroeder's latest stuff, and if you have any questions about those email Jorg directly. My latest cab was a Mini 12+L and Jorg was very helpful. Quality and performance is outstanding.

 

[zontar]

 

[lomo]

Jorg is a great guy. I owned 4 of his dual driver cabs and his 1st 112 light ones. I kept getting seduced by the weight.....trying cabs with larger drivers and claims of deep bass....even the 215 BMF... all were easily heard on stage. All were midrange bazookas pretty much devoid of content below 100 Hz that I tired of and sold. I have no idea what his more recent cabs are like and I reiterate he was a fine guy.

 

[Count Bassie]

Jorg is a great guy. I owned 4 of his dual driver cabs and his 1st 112 light ones. I kept getting seduced by the weight.....trying cabs with larger drivers and claims of deep bass....even the 215 BMF... all were easily heard on stage. All were midrange bazookas pretty much devoid of content below 100 Hz that I tired of and sold. I have no idea what his more recent cabs are like and I reiterate he was a fine guy.

Devoid of content below 100 Hz? How could that be with a bass cab?

 

[redwood]

I used (and still have) a 1012R slant for a few years in a heavy rock situation. Cuts through extremely well. Luckily we almost always had FOH support, with subs, so I was less concerned with the sub 120hz stuff. Without that support, it felt a little lacking no matter how much low end I tried to push with my amp. But never "bad" sounding. Maybe just a little lacking there. 120hz and up though, the cab is a monster. Our drummer was STUPID loud, but he always commented he didn't want any bass in his in-ears because he could hear me just fine.