I'm looking to replace the stock pickup in my Squier Vintage Modified Precision. I was wondering what are the pros and the cons between these two pickups.
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Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound Vs DiMarzio Split P
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SD QP is too clanky for my taste. I'm not sure I've used the Split P, but I really like the Model P.
bassgod0dmw said:
I agree about the SDQP but I personally use the dimarzio dp127 in all my basses that can fit em. They are really hot pickups with a big low end. I had to adjust the pickup height to make the string outputs balance because they have are super bassy on the lowest string
Well I honestly think they are the most well rounded pickups which is why I put them in my basses.
They are not extremely bassy to where it overshadowseverything else but it brings out a powerful thumpy low end. The the highs aren't as clanky and twangy as the SDQPs but they bring a nice crisp clear high. The Mids are probably the weakest point in the pickups though. They aren't anything special or anything hindering, they are just Mids
Personally I think the best points on these are the lows it can produce
They are not extremely bassy to where it overshadowseverything else but it brings out a powerful thumpy low end. The the highs aren't as clanky and twangy as the SDQPs but they bring a nice crisp clear high. The Mids are probably the weakest point in the pickups though. They aren't anything special or anything hindering, they are just Mids
Personally I think the best points on these are the lows it can produce
It's seems from your description of the Split P is what need for all the genres I play.
the trick with the split Ps is to wire them parallel, instead of normal P-bass series.
that cleans up the mud, but with almost no loss of output (since each side is still itself a series humbucker).
in parallel, the split P sounds kinda like a nice soapbar pickup.
that cleans up the mud, but with almost no loss of output (since each side is still itself a series humbucker).
in parallel, the split P sounds kinda like a nice soapbar pickup.
walterw said:
Oh my gosh! I completely forgot to mention that!
I have em wired exactly how this says. This is super important
seinzumtode said:
One of the ways I have is following the Seymour Duncan wiring diagram. But I don't know. How it'll sound because the bass has been neckless for. A while
off the top of my head, the dimarzio will have a red wire going to hot, and a green wire going to ground; those stay the same, but the other two wires move.
on the pickup half with the red wire, its other wire goes to ground with the green wire.
on the pickup half with the green wire, its other wire goes to hot with the red wire.
you'll have two wires together for hot, and two wires together for ground.
on the pickup half with the red wire, its other wire goes to ground with the green wire.
on the pickup half with the green wire, its other wire goes to hot with the red wire.
you'll have two wires together for hot, and two wires together for ground.
I'm putting a Model J in one of my Hamer Cruise's neck position, and picked up a 500K push/pull to do just that. It will be installed in that pups vol pot position.
Just in case somebody else digs up this old thread, hear are Dimarzio's installation instructions:
The Split P™ is a direct replacement pickup, for installation in all Precision basses except those instruments of very early release
which do not have two section pickups. No modification to the standard Precision bass is necessary.
Please Note
If you have no previous experience with wiring or feel uncertain how to proceed, you may want a professional to do the pickup
installation. The expense will not be very great, ant it will help ensure you have a properly functioning instrument.
General Instructions
If you are using our pickup to replace another one, try to do the following:
(1) Remove your old pickup carefully. Installing your new pickup will be much easier if you unsolder your original pickup
cleanly (rather than cut its wire.) Make a note of exactly where the old pickup was connected as, in most cases, the new
one will go to the same place.
(2) Use a soldering iron with a fine tip (25 to 45 watts) and thin rosin core solder for all connections.
IMPORTANT: ALTHOUGH OTHER BRANDS OF PICKUPS HAVE THE SAME COLOR WIRES AS OURS, THE CONNECTIONS
ARE NOT THE SAME. TO ENSURE A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING PICKUP, YOU MUST FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS.
Basic Wiring
Solder the BLACK and WHITE wires from the Split P™ together. Cover this solder connection with tape to prevent it from
touching any part of the circuit. Solder the RED wire to the hot connection in the circuit. This will be the same place in the
circuit the original pickup’s hot wire was soldered to. Solder the GREEN wire to ground. In most cases, this connection is
made to the back of a control.
If the Split P™ is being installed in a 2 pickup bass and the pickups are out of phase with each other, solder the GREEN wire to
hot and the RED wire to ground.
Wiring Options
Although the Split P™ has 4 conductors, effective switching options are limited. The basic connection described above is for
series humbucking wiring. Parallel wiring is also possible, but the difference in tone is slight. This is because the two halves of
the Split P™ pick up different pairs of strings, so there is no tonal interaction between the E & A and D & G sides.
The two halves of the Split P™ are actually individual humbucking pickups. It is therefore possible to wire the halves separately
for independent outputs to connect to two amplifiers or amplifier channels, without any degradation in the pickup’s performance.
This type of wiring will require the replacement or addition of controls as well as a stereo jack, and DiMarzio recommends the
work be done by a professional shop.
Control Values
The Split-P™ will function correctly with 250K volume and tone controls. 500K controls will slightly increase treble response, if
desired. The capacitor on the tone control can be any value from .1 to .02 microfarads. The smaller values roll off less treble.
We recommend .05 to take full advantage of the Split P™’s frequency range.
The Split P™ is a direct replacement pickup, for installation in all Precision basses except those instruments of very early release
which do not have two section pickups. No modification to the standard Precision bass is necessary.
Please Note
If you have no previous experience with wiring or feel uncertain how to proceed, you may want a professional to do the pickup
installation. The expense will not be very great, ant it will help ensure you have a properly functioning instrument.
General Instructions
If you are using our pickup to replace another one, try to do the following:
(1) Remove your old pickup carefully. Installing your new pickup will be much easier if you unsolder your original pickup
cleanly (rather than cut its wire.) Make a note of exactly where the old pickup was connected as, in most cases, the new
one will go to the same place.
(2) Use a soldering iron with a fine tip (25 to 45 watts) and thin rosin core solder for all connections.
IMPORTANT: ALTHOUGH OTHER BRANDS OF PICKUPS HAVE THE SAME COLOR WIRES AS OURS, THE CONNECTIONS
ARE NOT THE SAME. TO ENSURE A PROPERLY FUNCTIONING PICKUP, YOU MUST FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS.
Basic Wiring
Solder the BLACK and WHITE wires from the Split P™ together. Cover this solder connection with tape to prevent it from
touching any part of the circuit. Solder the RED wire to the hot connection in the circuit. This will be the same place in the
circuit the original pickup’s hot wire was soldered to. Solder the GREEN wire to ground. In most cases, this connection is
made to the back of a control.
If the Split P™ is being installed in a 2 pickup bass and the pickups are out of phase with each other, solder the GREEN wire to
hot and the RED wire to ground.
Wiring Options
Although the Split P™ has 4 conductors, effective switching options are limited. The basic connection described above is for
series humbucking wiring. Parallel wiring is also possible, but the difference in tone is slight. This is because the two halves of
the Split P™ pick up different pairs of strings, so there is no tonal interaction between the E & A and D & G sides.
The two halves of the Split P™ are actually individual humbucking pickups. It is therefore possible to wire the halves separately
for independent outputs to connect to two amplifiers or amplifier channels, without any degradation in the pickup’s performance.
This type of wiring will require the replacement or addition of controls as well as a stereo jack, and DiMarzio recommends the
work be done by a professional shop.
Control Values
The Split-P™ will function correctly with 250K volume and tone controls. 500K controls will slightly increase treble response, if
desired. The capacitor on the tone control can be any value from .1 to .02 microfarads. The smaller values roll off less treble.
We recommend .05 to take full advantage of the Split P™’s frequency range.
thinking about trying some dp127's for this frankenHPJ.
has schaller p in it now (old ones that read about 11.6k)
are allegedly clones of a model p, but black wire is brown.
have a ser-par on the middle pup that took me weeks to figure out wire colors..
nk pup is random guit-fiddle humbucker reads approx 14.4k
has schaller p in it now (old ones that read about 11.6k)
are allegedly clones of a model p, but black wire is brown.
have a ser-par on the middle pup that took me weeks to figure out wire colors..
nk pup is random guit-fiddle humbucker reads approx 14.4k
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I don't see Area P on the Dimarzio website but Amazon seems to have them.
https://www.amazon.com/DiMarzio-DP2.../B008RBJPFA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
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The Area P is a new pickup and is available at many sources.
Supposedly it has output closer to a traditional P bass split pickup.
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