SG & EB Bass Club

[Prodigus Filius]

Can add this to list too. I had it down but forgot to put in

Granada ( Matsumoku ?)

 

[Deleted member 268085]

A lot was happening underground in those days I guess. We should all be thankful stuff like this gem survived.

Across the border in Germany, you had Amon Düül II and CAN and Gong. Those were wonderful times. I ran into Amon Düül II at a coffee house in Munich in '71. Very cool peeps. In a different vein, you had Triumvirat. Their '75 album Spartacus is my favorite.

 

[ajkula66]

Across the border in Germany, you had Amon Düül II and CAN and Gong.

Only Gong was not German. Its members over the years were mostly British and French, and its founder Daevid Allen was Australian, although he had been operating in the UK for quite some time - including the original Soft Machine lineup - before forming Gong.

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Only Gong was not German. Its members over the years were mostly British and French, and its founder Daevid Allen was Australian, although he had been operating in the UK for quite some time - including the original Soft Machine lineup - before forming Gong.

Yeah. Gong was a late add to the sentence. I should know better than to shoot off my mouth without thinking first. I'm a big fan of Steve Hillage, up to his 777/System 7 days. I just never got into what he and Miquette were doing.

 

[rutabaga bob]

Can add this to list too. I had it down but forgot to put in

Granada ( Matsumoku ?)
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Loving the maple fingerboard!

 

[dmt]

Well time to wrap up the journey through the alphabet of MIJ SG styled bass guitars with a few final entries. A suprise for me was not being able to dig up a MIJ Tokai bass. Tokai MIJ SG styled guitars no problem. Korean and Chinese made EB-0/EB-3 ish stuff, no problem. Could be I'm not looking in the right place.

*T
Teisco (love the headstock) ( Kawai/Teisco)
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*V
Ventura (Matsumoku?)
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*Z
Zenta (Yet another Jedson/Bolero)( Kawai/ Teisco?)
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Addendum.
*A
Aims (?)
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HP ( thanks ajkula66) (?)
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Pearl (True origins of Pearl brand a mystery. Like so many others. Matsumoku maybe. Torch's Vintage Guitar Research Blog: Pearl Guitars...brought to you by Matsumoku and Hayashi)
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Here in list form are the 76 brands I have posted An * before a name indicates a pretty agreed upon opinion that the quality of the brand in question is top notch and if you were in the hunt for an MIJ EB0/EB-3 inspired copy ( MIJ Epiphones and Orvilles you wouldn't consider copies due to Gibson's involvement) then the asterisked ones are a good place to start. That's not to say there aren't good ones that don't have an *. Some no doubt are.This list ,as I've mentioned before, is likely light years from being a definitive list of domestic Japanese and foreign imports. But it is a start. I learned a lot looking into this subject matter, and have a clearer picture of what I personally would look into buying if the opportunity presented itself

LIST

Aims
Amena
Antoria
*Aria
*Aria Pro II
Ariel
Arita
Asco
Aspen
Avon
*Bacchus
Bellwood
Bolero
*Burny
Capri
*Cimar
Columbus
Conrad
Crown
DIA
*Drifter
*Edwards
El Degas
*Electra
Elger
El Maya
Encore
*Epiphone
Eros
*ESP
Excetro
Festival
Gaban
Ganson
Gemco
Global
Grant
*Greco
Harmony
Horugel
HP
*Ibanez
Jaxon
Jedson
*Kasuga
Kay
Kawai
Lero
Life
LiveWires
Lyle
Madeira
Mann
Mansfield
Maya
Morris
Mozz
National
Orlando
Orpheum
*Orville by Gibson
Pan
Pearl
Penco
Raven
Rythmline
Rokkomann
Sakai
Savoy
Sekova
Shaftesbury
Stagg
Sumbro
Teisco
Ventura

Awesome job, Prodigus Filius.

Thanks for sharing your efforts. You really added some juice to the thread, and we'll have a unique resource here in the Club archives going forward

 

[Prodigus Filius]

Across the border in Germany, you had Amon Düül II and CAN and Gong. Those were wonderful times. I ran into Amon Düül II at a coffee house in Munich in '71. Very cool peeps. In a different vein, you had Triumvirat. Their '75 album Spartacus is my favorite.

In the mid 70's, and during my formative "always high" days, a friend and I used to play his brothers Tangerine Dream albums constantly. A lot was happening in that neck of the woods.

Only Gong was not German. Its members over the years were mostly British and French, and its founder Daevid Allen was Australian, although he had been operating in the UK for quite some time - including the original Soft Machine lineup - before forming Gong.

Allen is one of the unsung heroes of the music world, here in Aussieland and overseas. Genius.

Loving the maple fingerboard!

I got that pic from TB, in a Matsumoku thread. The only place I came across that brand.

Awesome job, Prodigus Filius.

Thanks for sharing your efforts. You really added some juice to the thread, and we'll have a unique resource here in the Club archives going forward

Thanks for your comments. This is a great club. Like to think, in some small way, my basic research helps others discover what's out there in SG land for themselves. All credit to Gibson for establishing such iconic designs that others were so keen to emulate. And to the musicians who made the shape and sound, get planted in peoples minds. Jack Bruce and Andy Fraser in particular in the bass world. And the mighty Angus and Tony Iommi in the guitar world.

 

[Prodigus Filius]

Just a word about some of the manufacturers I might have attached to a particular brand. I think a few times I might have put the name of the company that owned the brand and not the manufacturer per se, e.g Hoshino for Ibanez as manufacturer, when in fact Hoshino was the brand owning company and Fujigen was the manufacturer. MIJ stuff is a tangled, byzantine web of companies and manufacturers. Some mention of manufacturer may be accurate, but some might not be too.

Interesting little tidbit. The Fernandes brand Burny was originally intended to be Bunny as in bunny rabbit according to here History of Fernandes - Burny - Vintage Japan Guitars

Who's the bunny?

 

[ajkula66]

In the mid 70's, and during my formative "always high" days, a friend and I used to play his brothers Tangerine Dream albums constantly.

I actually appreciate Tangerine Dream a lot more now than I did 40 years ago...and I'm never high...

Allen is one of the unsung heroes of the music world, here in Aussieland and overseas. Genius.

For sure. Some of his stuff was difficult even for me to digest, though, and I have a *very* high tolerance for psychodelia in general...

 

[edwinhurwitz]

I actually appreciate Tangerine Dream a lot more now than I did 40 years ago...and I'm never high...



For sure. Some of his stuff was difficult even for me to digest, though, and I have a *very* high tolerance for psychodelia in general...

I got to open up for Gong about 25 years ago at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland, OR, with Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth and Pierre Moerlen. Really great bunch of people and very interesting music.

 

[Prodigus Filius]

I actually appreciate Tangerine Dream a lot more now than I did 40 years ago...and I'm never high...



For sure. Some of his stuff was difficult even for me to digest, though, and I have a *very* high tolerance for psychodelia in general...

I was a bit young at the birth of psychedelic music to buy any myself. But we had a border who had a mean record collection, and when my young ears heard "White Rabbit" I liked it. A straight up rock person these days, ( Reggae too) but the music back then was great and incredibly creative

I got to open up for Gong about 25 years ago at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland, OR, with Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth and Pierre Moerlen. Really great bunch of people and very interesting music.

Fantastic!

 

[Prodigus Filius]

Boarder I should say. Damn homophones

 

[Deleted member 268085]

In the mid 70's, and during my formative "always high" days, a friend and I used to play his brothers Tangerine Dream albums constantly. A lot was happening in that neck of the woods.
...

I own all of TD's albums. Love 'em.

...
Allen is one of the unsung heroes of the music world, here in Aussieland and overseas. Genius.
...

David/Daevid was a musical genius. So many different iterations of Gong. I especially liked the Radio Gnome Invisible trilogy that included Steve Hillage on guitar. Lost to the physical world in 2015 from neck cancer, but his music will live on in the ether forever.

 

[Prodigus Filius]

I own all of TD's albums. Love 'em.



David/Daevid was a musical genius. So many different iterations of Gong. I especially liked the Radio Gnome Invisible trilogy that included Steve Hillage on guitar. Lost to the physical world in 2015 from neck cancer, but his music will live on in the ether forever.

You may know of this site..
planetgong

 

[ajkula66]

I got to open up for Gong about 25 years ago at the Crystal Ballroom in Portland, OR, with Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth and Pierre Moerlen. Really great bunch of people and very interesting music.

Wow. Colour me green with envy...

I was a bit young at the birth of psychedelic music to buy any myself.

As was I, but it hasn't stopped me from diving into it head first in my teenage days...of course, at that time the punk/new wave was up and coming and the musical acid trips were passe, but I didn't really care...

 

[Prodigus Filius]

I've always charted my own course. I don't mind what genre it is, as long as it gets me in. Heck I have good Disco collection he he

 

[ajkula66]

Another non-Western-oddity featuring an EB-3, played fingerstyle by Zoran Milanović. The bass enters at around 3.25 mark. Some cool playing/great bass sound (IMO) past 16.00 mark.



Yugoslavia 1975

 

[SubHuman]

OK y'all showing off these old Bands...well check these guys out.
Plus the Bass player shows the perfect bass to use for those frustrated with neck dive. Ha!

 

[rutabaga bob]

Loved the drum solo! (I started out as a drummer when I was a kid...)

 

[Aussie Player]

Andy Fraser was one of the EB Kings at only 15!
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For those who like Fraser's tone, it is easily accomplished by switching to both pick ups, treble volume on full and bass volume turn back a bit to 8, with both tones set on 2.
Finger pick the strings over the treble pickup (which is the most comfortable position on and EB3 anyway) and play through a Marshall bass amp into a Marshall quad box.

You can get the same/similar tone from either nickel rounds or Labella Nylons which assists the vibrato and bends.