Should I Just Return It?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by P Cheen, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Keep it!

  2. Return it!

  1. P Cheen

    P Cheen Alembics and parametric mid knobs scare me.

    Apr 4, 2015
    Southern Oregon
    Hey all,
    Recently had a NBD two days ago and have spent a considerable amount of time with my new Player Jazz, however the strings are not entirely aligned with respect to the neck and pickup pole pieces.
    I’ve already done the Fender neck alignment trick a bunch of times and even completely removing the neck and putting it back at one point. It is looking better than when it arrived, but still not 100%. I did order a Hipshot KickAss bridge and I will take advantage of the adjustable saddle feature.

    The Pros: I have setup this bass to my exact liking, and plays as good if not better than my MIM Deluxe (costs $300 more) which I highly regard. In fact the fretwork on the Player Jazz is better.

    The Con: I have OCD. Like, I was diagnosed when I was a kid. Had to take medication for a bit. So this is eating me up. I’ve improved, i’m 26 now and I can handle it MUCH better... but this string alignment thing is still lingering in my head.

    Here are some angled shots:






    What do you guys think? My wife thinks it’s a non-issue since I love the playability and sound of the instrument. And who knows maybe the KickAss bridge will finally solve the issue.
  2. Beej


    Feb 10, 2007
    Vancouver Island
    As a builder, I'd want to slap a couple of long rulers on it and see how far off centre this is. You're right that this is way off alignment, and if you've tried to bump the neck over and it's not been successful, that sucks. You can also see how the bridge saddles are pulled over to the bass side? If they weren't, the misalignment would be even worse.

    That's why I'm mentioning putting a straightedge down each side of the neck over the body. It looks like the bridge has been mounted about 2-3mm over to the treble side of the body, but hard to tell from photos. Also extremely unusual for this to be the case though, considering this is a CNC made body and should be identical to thousands of others.

    I also notice the fretboard seems a little wonky up by the nut, bumping out on the treble side, and curving in slightly on the bass side - that's weird. Could also just be parallax from the photo itself though.

    In the end, this would annoy me too if I could not get it to line up correctly - there's no reason it should not. :meh:
  3. godofthunder59

    godofthunder59 Life is short, buy the bass.

    Feb 19, 2006
    Rochester NY USA
    Endorsing Cataldo Basses, Whirlwind products, Thunderbucker pickups
    Sadly then don't buy a 7ender or pickups with pole pieces.
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  4. P Cheen

    P Cheen Alembics and parametric mid knobs scare me.

    Apr 4, 2015
    Southern Oregon
    Thanks for your input @Beej, I did compensate the saddles myself because it makes it at least tolerable. I also think that because the pau ferro fingerboard is so vertically striped that it also causes somewhat of a visual distortion.
    I was thinking a nut change + Hipshot KickAss would do the trick but it’s too much hassle.
  5. luciens


    Feb 9, 2020
    On a new bass, yeah that would bug me. The bridge looks mislocated to the right a little bit. As for would I send it back, well, yeah I probably would try to return it.

    On a used bass, I would probably leave it as is, as long as the G string doesn't get too close to the edge. On some basses, a slight displacement downward like this is actually built-in and intentional, but I don't remember the reason given for it or the bass I'm thinking of. So, if it plays good and gives no problems I'd leave it.

    Else if it is causing problem, it could be fixed. Drill and dowel/epoxy the old holes, move the bridge over a few mm and redrill/tap the holes, is probably what I'd do if it kept me up at night.

  6. Yahboy


    May 21, 2008
    I see more detail and clear from your photo share now.
    The bridge are just off assembly.
    Take it out, plug the screws holes, refine the bridge position, redrill new holes, install and wow !!

    Prove again, the QC of Fender Player line still behind to China Squier CV line.
  7. P Cheen

    P Cheen Alembics and parametric mid knobs scare me.

    Apr 4, 2015
    Southern Oregon
    Yeah you spotted it right from the Sweetwater photoshoot. I just don’t want to go through all that trouble. I bought new because I wanted a worry-free experience but here we are.
    Thank you.
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  8. P Cheen

    P Cheen Alembics and parametric mid knobs scare me.

    Apr 4, 2015
    Southern Oregon
    You are exactly right. Have kept me up 2 nights now!
  9. Yahboy


    May 21, 2008
    Actually the product image shown on sweet water are very easy to let buyer check the bass assembly jobs. Just expand the photo and check carefully. Pretty easy. Plus, they show you the bass weight too.
    In past, I found lot FMIC bass has crooked bridge assembly issue include the Custom Shop stuff.

    But , lot of TB member here always say “ it is shooting angle problem” . I am a 31 years experience photographer and 35 years dark room and colour lab printer, I only trust my eyes.
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  10. Lackey


    May 10, 2002
    Los Angeles
    That's off and irritatingly so. I'm far from ocd but I expect certain things with a name brand 21st century instrument.

    Return it. More fish in the sea. I'm only sorry you spent so much time and effort on it already.
  11. garp


    Feb 7, 2009
    Connecticut USA
    Not only is it too much hassle, but such surgery will also void Fender's limited lifetime warranty.

    Before you go too far with tweaking, take advantage of Sweetwater's sales philosophy: If you're not thrilled with your purchase, then neither is Sweetwater. The "worry-free" component is not necessarily an endorsement that FMIC's products are absolutely flawless, or that their pre-sale inspection process absolutely avoids disappointment, but that they will do what it takes to make things right, whatever it takes. Send your images to your Sales Engineer, and allow him/her to make it right.

    (Oh...and please be sure to add a carrots-themed option to your poll choices...because I'm OCD like that. ;) )
  12. Lackey


    May 10, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Looking at this thing again, serious case of Tom Cruise Teeth going on. How the hell is the truss rod access so far over to one side anyways?? Fingerboard dots are super lopsided to the A and D strings... Yeesh.

    This is why I no longer play Fender.
  13. Yahboy


    May 21, 2008
    The off side truss rod access actually is the Player bass benchmark.
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  14. Yahboy


    May 21, 2008
    I own 2 2019 Player P bass previously , but the 2011 Squier CV60P just smoke them in tone and playing feel.
    Suggest you return it and give a look on G&L tribute JB.
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  15. B-Mac

    B-Mac Happiness is a warm puppy and a great bass Gold Supporting Member

    Brand new Fender? Like this?
    Why are you even asking?
    You already know the answer.
    This is completely unacceptable.
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  16. waynobass


    Feb 27, 2008
    Keep it; the adjustable Kickass bridge will solve the problem.
  17. P Cheen

    P Cheen Alembics and parametric mid knobs scare me.

    Apr 4, 2015
    Southern Oregon
    Just as a little experiment I decided to bolt on the neck to a different MIM body. Take a look and tell me what you think. This experiment is to see if the bridge on the original body is at fault.



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  18. Spidey2112


    Aug 3, 2016
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  19. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    Put the neck back on & BEFORE you tighten the screws all the way, PULL the neck in the direction you want it, now hold it there & tighten the screws.
  20. Spidey2112


    Aug 3, 2016
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