Shure Beta 27 side-address condenser microphone

Discussion in 'Amps, Mics & Pickups [DB]' started by K. Powell, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. K. Powell

    K. Powell

    Nov 9, 2014
    I've been looking at this mic as a possible candidate for live use. Have any of you DB players checked it out? From the Shure web page: "A tight supercardioid pattern ensures high gain-before-feedback and maximum isolation from other sound sources." Also has a 3 position filter to roll off bass for proximity effect issues.
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  2. AGCurry

    AGCurry Supporting Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    St. Louis
    Price for that mic is $399, too much to spend for a double bass mic, and overkill for live use. The fact that it's a condenser means you're likely to have feedback issues and require phantom power. The fact that it's very directional means you'll struggle with optimum placement and deal with proximity effect.
    If you really want to mic your bass, try the old reliable, versatile, and good Sennheiser MD421 (pick up a used one), or perhaps a nice omni (I have a couple of EV RE55s - perhaps the best dynamic full-range omni ever made) right up close to the bass.
    I've given up chasing microphones for my bass amplification. I own literally dozens of very good microphones, but my cheap pickup-and-amp combo gives me 90% of the sound and 25% of the hassle.
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  3. My favourite bass mics are the Electrovoice re220, the Sennheiser 609 and the sm57.

    The 609 and 57 can be attached to the bass in the tailoiece or with rubber bands round the bridge.

    I much prefer a dynamic to a condenser for live use.
  4. Matthias Hacker

    Matthias Hacker

    Apr 8, 2018
    It might be worth a try. But it´s a large diaphragm condenser, for live use small diaphragm condensers are typically easier to handle. There are two other options if you are looking for side adressed condensers: ATM 450 and Shure PGA 181 (also Shure Beta 181, but pricey). I guess those might sound good wrapped into foam and placed under the bridge. They might do the job, maybe a bit better or worse than other mic´s, but they are still condensers with a lot of bleed on stage. Would you mind to try them all and write a review for us? ;) No seriously I´d be interested.
  5. I have an atm450 and it’s atrocious for double bass. Very toppy, picks up every noise from everywhere. I’m not sure how the ‘atm450 is good for double bass’ meme started, but it’s not true.
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  6. LaFaro01


    Aug 27, 2018
    If you want to try a mic for amplifying your bass, why don't you give a try to the remic? It's a mic to solve some of the problems with "normal" condensers and with my bass it sounds really great... if you play in a very noisy and loud surrounding, you could change the model.. it's not "really cheap", but cheaper then trying 3-10 mic in 3 years and not getting satisfied ;)
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  7. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    The Remic is has a small footprint and very non invasive camera foam mounting system with a light weight cotton cable. I get great results with mic in cubs and concert halls. Remic is a great mic. There is a Remic Green in the TB classifides as we speak
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  8. K. Powell

    K. Powell

    Nov 9, 2014
    Great suggestions from the community here. I have a Lemur Jupiter ply bass with Spiro mitts. It's a large 3/4 along the dimensions of an American Standard, so this is a budget roots music /country type of instrument. It sounds good to me acoustic and recorded with a mic.
    I tried the Ischell XJack and it was OK but sounded thin no matter where I placed it. I recently came across the Ear Trumpet Labs videos for their Nadine bass mic and was impressed, also a condenser large capsule mic. However, it's pricey and I thought another cheaper mic could approach the same concept with a bit of DIY mic mounting.
    I reinstalled the realist copper pickup and played another gig....
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