Anybody use this mic? The specs are very similar to the ATM 350 w/ a lower frequency response...Looks good to me.
Advice, thoughts?
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Double Bass Shure Beta 98 H/C - Any one use this mic?
- Thread starter Michael Drost
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From it's description, it sounds like the Beta 98HC been designed for use with percussion and wind instruments. Looking at comparable microphones, the DPA 4099D Vote models for percussion and brass instruments, have higher SPL (sound pressure levels) before they reach clipping and lower signal to noise ratios. So if that's similar with the Shure, then you may be better off with a microphone that was designed for String Instruments.
http://www.shure.com/americas/products/microphones/beta/beta-98hc-instrument-microphone.
Ovid Microphones designed the CC100 TBone mice to replicate the DPA 4099 series at a more economical price. Now I wouldn't tell you that the CC100 is as good as a DPA but take a look at it's specifications here.
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The total system with a bass clip and carrying case is 92 euros. or $122.00 dollars shipped.
So if you're looking for a professional level mic then I'd go with the ATM. But if you're just getting into performing with a mic and want to try something out that works well and is more reasonably priced. Then the Ovid CC100 is certainly a consideration.
Ric
M Drost,
I think that the Radio Shack simply works on some basses because of what it doesn't pickup rather than what it does. When it does work, it's a very economical microphone. I bought one and it's sitting in my practice room, until I have time to experiment with it. If you have @$122.00 there's always the Ovid TBone CC100, that works well as an alternative to the DPA 4099B. I wouldn't insult you intelligence by telling you that the Ovid is as nuanced and high quality as the DPA 4099D vote, but it can sound very good at sixty of the price.
Ric
I think Ric is right on the money with this. It's success all depends on how you are using it. If you are going to a mixing board then the DPA or other similar mic is fantastic. But if you are going to a amp that is right behind you, then you will most-likely deal with tons of feedback issues. That is where the RS mic works better. I use it fairly loud with the amp 2 feet behind me with no feedback. I can't see doing that with the DPA.
In Ric's earlier post, he mentions the Shure Beta 98 being better for wind and percussion because of the high SPL. I think that is what makes it perfect for bass. The sound pressure levels coming out of a bass f-hole is pretty high. I used a AKG D112 kick drum mic for years for that very reason. It could handle tremendously high SPL.
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Until recently that's what I thought as well, and it certainly is difficult with a bass amplifier, but I've found that with a powered speaker, like the QSC K8 it's easy to place it in close proximity to the DPA 4099B, as long as the speaker is elevated on a stand away from the floor.
Actually, I was concerned with the fact that higher SPL is used for trumpets and percussion, to prevent the DPA 4099 from distorting. I don't place the microphone over the F-hole, because that's not area where I get the best sound. I used to do that with the Crown GLM 200, that was part of the Fishman Bass Blender, and it was just to boomy and undefined. I put the DPA 4099B right between the bridge feet, above the bridge, close to the top, in that area, you need a lower SLP, and higher signal to noise ratio (which the DPA 4099B version has), so you can increase the microphones gain further, before it begins to feedback. Different strokes, for different basses I guess.
Ric
