Shuttle 9.0?

[Buzz Fluhart]

I love all you folks, and highly respect your opinions and amp. choices, BUT I'm sorry....this 4 lbs / 900 watts Shuttle 9.0 just doesn't cut it for me. I realize Tone, Volume, Size, etc. are all subjective to each individual bassist, but I'm too damn old world, old fashioned, and just plain old to accept this newer, smaller technology. Forget about the Holy Grail term: "TONE". When you're paying a bar of 250+ people, with 99% on their 14th beer or 10th Jack 'n Coke, you think they're out there thinking, "Gezzz...that bass player needs to ajust his pre-gain and add some mid-shift to his post EQ" ?? Who knows...maybe they are, between constant chants of "HEY MAN....play Freebird!!"
Maybe it's ego-fueled, but my prerequisite for owning a bass rig is that it has to be able to kill me if it falls over on me. I still own much of the dinosaur-sized equipment I originally purchased in the 70's...and YES, it's a back-breaker hauling it from gig to gig, but possibly me being such a show-off prohibits using combo amps, small piggyback rigs, or amps compact enough for my dog to go over, take a leak on 'em, then run off smiling. As I stated earlier, if a rig isn't large and heavy enough to kill me if it falls over on me, I just have to pass....Tone of the Gods or not.
I DO hope everyone who rents or purchases a Shuttle 9.0 is very happy and satisfied with it. It appears to be a Great amp....it's just not right for my tastes. But then again, who of you out there still wears bell-bottom jeans with a PEACE symbol sewed on the hem? Please excuse me....mine are in the washer and need to be placed in the dryer now. Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion. Be well.

 

[deekay911]

love it!

 

[lomo]

LOLOLOL. How does your horse react to pulling your rig, and where do you tie him up when you arrive?

I love all you folks, and highly respect your opinions and amp. choices, BUT I'm sorry....this 4 lbs / 900 watts Shuttle 9.0 just doesn't cut it for me. I realize Tone, Volume, Size, etc. are all subjective to each individual bassist, but I'm too damn old world, old fashioned, and just plain old to accept this newer, smaller technology. Forget about the Holy Grail term: "TONE". When you're paying a bar of 250+ people, with 99% on their 14th beer or 10th Jack 'n Coke, you think they're out there thinking, "Gezzz...that bass player needs to ajust his pre-gain and add some mid-shift to his post EQ" ?? Who knows...maybe they are, between constant chants of "HEY MAN....play Freebird!!"
Maybe it's ego-fueled, but my prerequisite for owning a bass rig is that it has to be able to kill me if it falls over on me. I still own much of the dinosaur-sized equipment I originally purchased in the 70's...and YES, it's a back-breaker hauling it from gig to gig, but possibly me being such a show-off prohibits using combo amps, small piggyback rigs, or amps compact enough for my dog to go over, take a leak on 'em, then run off smiling. As I stated earlier, if a rig isn't large and heavy enough to kill me if it falls over on me, I just have to pass....Tone of the Gods or not.
I DO hope everyone who rents or purchases a Shuttle 9.0 is very happy and satisfied with it. It appears to be a Great amp....it's just not right for my tastes. But then again, who of you out there still wears bell-bottom jeans with a PEACE symbol sewed on the hem? Please excuse me....mine are in the washer and need to be placed in the dryer now. Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion. Be well.

 

[Mystic Michael]

Keep on rockin', Buzz!

(And do be sure to avoid the tar pits...)

MM

 

[David A. Davis]

I still haven't found a "micro" amp and/or neo speaker that sounds like the heavey stuff. I know the guy out in the crowd thats wasted couldn't tell the difference, but I could. Sorry! When I say "sounds", I mean standing in front of the amp, plugging away. Not a recording using the DI. I'm waiting to see what the Peavey VB3 sounds like. Gotta have tubes, pre and power. Just my $0.02.

 

[lomo]

That's why Baskin Robbins make 31 (or however many) flavors.

I still haven't found a "micro" amp and/or neo speaker that sounds like the heavey stuff. I know the guy out in the crowd thats wasted couldn't tell the difference, but I could. Sorry! When I say "sounds", I mean standing in front of the amp, plugging away. Not a recording using the DI. I'm waiting to see what the Peavey VB3 sounds like. Gotta have tubes, pre and power. Just my $0.02.

 

[mongo2]

I still haven't found a "micro" amp and/or neo speaker that sounds like the heavey stuff.

I have.

 

[cgnortheast]

I was just looking at the "reviews" threads and didn't see any for the G-B Shuttle stuff, aside from the Shuttle Max 12.0....
If people have reviewed the 3.0, 6.0, 9.0 where can I find them?

 

[BurningSkies]

There's another 1KW, 2 Ω, SMPS/Class D amp too. A thread on it can be found in the DB forums...

Have you checked out the EA Amps? They do go down to 2 ohms.

Heresy to say that on the Shuttle thread. Sorry.

I don't want 1Kw@ 2ohms. I want a simple one channel 1Kw @ 4ohms.

I don't believe in 4ohm cabs.

 

[Red Planet]

I love all you folks, and highly respect your opinions and amp. choices, BUT I'm sorry....this 4 lbs / 900 watts Shuttle 9.0 just doesn't cut it for me. I realize Tone, Volume, Size, etc. are all subjective to each individual bassist, but I'm too damn old world, old fashioned, and just plain old to accept this newer, smaller technology. Forget about the Holy Grail term: "TONE". When you're paying a bar of 250+ people, with 99% on their 14th beer or 10th Jack 'n Coke, you think they're out there thinking, "Gezzz...that bass player needs to adjust his pre-gain and add some mid-shift to his post EQ" ?? Who knows...maybe they are, between constant chants of "HEY MAN....play Freebird!!"
Maybe it's ego-fueled, but my prerequisite for owning a bass rig is that it has to be able to kill me if it falls over on me. I still own much of the dinosaur-sized equipment I originally purchased in the 70's...and YES, it's a back-breaker hauling it from gig to gig, but possibly me being such a show-off prohibits using combo amps, small piggyback rigs, or amps compact enough for my dog to go over, take a leak on 'em, then run off smiling. As I stated earlier, if a rig isn't large and heavy enough to kill me if it falls over on me, I just have to pass....Tone of the Gods or not.
I DO hope everyone who rents or purchases a Shuttle 9.0 is very happy and satisfied with it. It appears to be a Great amp....it's just not right for my tastes. But then again, who of you out there still wears bell-bottom jeans with a PEACE symbol sewed on the hem? Please excuse me....mine are in the washer and need to be placed in the dryer now. Thank you for allowing me to voice my opinion. Be well.

All I can say is enjoy your back breaking gear. It takes all kinds and who am I to tell you what you can play or not play.

I think it depends on one's perspective. I remember thinking these Micro Amps were silly until I had spinal surgery and continued to battle with pain. I then started looking at the Micro stuff with a whole new perspective and seriousness.

If your rig is Big,

Mr Bonner's is bigger.

 

[Buzz Fluhart]

Hey Red Planet, First, please allow me to say I feel for your pain, and am so sorry you had to undergo spinal surgery....I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I hope you are recovering swiftly, and pray for the day when you are pain-free.
I agree 110% with what you say. If I had any sense (except what I carry in my pocket), I'd sell my Jurassic Park and invest in more lighter, modern technological equipment.... some that wouldn't make the bones in my arms, legs, and back sound like an orgy at the Rice Crispies guy's house, when I carry it to gigs.
You are wise and intelligent in your decisions, and most likely will be standing over my grave, after my aging body finally gives way to a 215 lb. Peavey 18" folded horn cabinet or two.
"Snap...Crackle...Pop".....the sounds of my cereal, AND my body.

OHHH...and as for you, Mr. lomo, Sir !!! I do not now, nor have I ever hauled my equipment on a horse-drawn rig !!! Uh....but I DO, however, haul it in my 1979 Ford Pinto. Ummm....does that qualify for equine status?? If so, then nevermind.

 

[Vic]

I don't believe in 4ohm cabs.

Wow, not even a 410?? Man, I can't imagine using dual 410's so I wouldn't get anything BUT 4ohms in a 410.

This is why I think the Shuttle 9.0 might even be my fave over the Max 12, yeah, even despite the dual channels and extra features (which I rarely need, to be very honest).

 

[Red Planet]

Hey Red Planet, First, please allow me to say I feel for your pain, and am so sorry you had to undergo spinal surgery....I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I hope you are recovering swiftly, and pray for the day when you are pain-free.
I agree 110% with what you say. If I had any sense (except what I carry in my pocket), I'd sell my Jurassic Park and invest in more lighter, modern technological equipment.... some that wouldn't make the bones in my arms, legs, and back sound like an orgy at the Rice Crispies guy's house, when I carry it to gigs.
You are wise and intelligent in your decisions, and most likely will be standing over my grave, after my aging body finally gives way to a 215 lb. Peavey 18" folded horn cabinet or two.
"Snap...Crackle...Pop".....the sounds of my cereal, AND my body.

OHHH...and as for you, Mr. lomo, Sir !!! I do not now, nor have I ever hauled my equipment on a horse-drawn rig !!! Uh....but I DO, however, haul it in my 1979 Ford Pinto. Ummm....does that qualify for equine status?? If so, then nevermind.

I should say there is absolutely nothing in the world wrong with a heavy rig if you are able to move it. Back when I was playing large places I use a Mesa Bass 400 into two 1x15 Thiele Cabs and a Bass 400 Plus into a Powerhouse 4x10 and 2x15. I had a rack full of gear. I used a Trace Preamp, Hush NR, Compander, Multi FX Unit all of it was in a huge Mesa Road Ready Rack. I could hurt you with my rig. Sadly those days are over.

Heck in 79 I used an SVT rig on one side of the stage and a Super Showman Rig on the other side. I remember our Guitar Player used to whine when I felt the need to pummel him. He was always whining about something.

 

[Red Planet]

Wow, not even a 410?? Man, I can't imagine using dual 410's so I wouldn't get anything BUT 4ohms in a 410.

This is why I think the Shuttle 9.0 might even be my fave over the Max 12, yeah, even despite the dual channels and extra features (which I rarely need, to be very honest).

The Shuttle 9.0 is going to be a hard amp to beat.

I could very well be wrong but I do not see how you could one up this one.

OK you could make it weigh 4 ounces or something and make it fit in your shirt pocket but I myself would not want an amp like that. I want a head I can set on a cab and see the knobs etc......

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

The Shuttle 9.0 is going to be a hard amp to beat.

I could very well be wrong but I do not see how you could one up this one.

OK you could make it weigh 4 ounces or something and make it fit in your shirt pocket but I myself would not want an amp like that. I want a head I can set on a cab and see the knobs etc......

Some situations require more flexibility. I like to add a touch of tube with electric bass, but my fretless acoustic bass guitar w/nylon tapewounds sounds much better w/FET only. you can fake that w/the Shuttle 6/9 by turning down the tube preamp, but it's not a quality solution and my ears can tell the difference. Some situations also require more fine-grained EQ control than the Shuttle 6/9 offer. That's why I use a ShuttleMAX12.

The main shortcoming of the ShuttleMAX12 is its inability to do bridge mono into an 8ohm channel. And some players desire the ability to do 2 ohm, which none of these platforms can do.

Granted, these shortcomings are probably focused on a narrow subset of players, but there's always room for improvement.

 

[BurningSkies]

Wow, not even a 410?? Man, I can't imagine using dual 410's so I wouldn't get anything BUT 4ohms in a 410.

This is why I think the Shuttle 9.0 might even be my fave over the Max 12, yeah, even despite the dual channels and extra features (which I rarely need, to be very honest).

Well, at this point I've left the 4x10 behind long ago...but even so, nope. Not even a 4ohm 4x10.

To me, the way to roll is always to have the most flexibility in my setup choices down to 4ohms. What that means is I want to have multiple 8ohm cabs to choose from. That way, if I've got two cabs I have three distinct options for a gig at any given time. That way, I can carry the full set up for bigger shows and I have the most speaker area and wattage on tap. For other shows, I have the option of one cab or the other depending upon the gig.

I don't want to straight-jacket myself into just having one option. So many people these days jump to 4ohm cabs (especially 2x10) just so they can 'get all my watts'...which is stupid. The best way to maximize volume is speaker area...and now we see threads of all of these people who had their great 4ohm 2x10 cabs out at the 'big gig' and then trashed the cab because they're expecting much too much of a small cab.

A 1000w amp (give or take) at 8 ohms gives a pretty nice 600-700w into one cab...and of course it gives a full 1000w into a 4ohms...so when you're running your two cabs hard, you're not feeding much more ~450 per cab and assuming you're not doing something stupid with your eq or playing technique...you'll have a hard time of trashing your gear, but still have loud accurate tone.

 

[Red Planet]

4 ohm 4x10's are a beautiful thing.

 

[BurningSkies]

4 ohm 4x10's are a beautiful thing.

I'd rather have 2 8 ohm 2x10's.

 

[Buzz Fluhart]

I should say there is absolutely nothing in the world wrong with a heavy rig if you are able to move it. Back when I was playing large places I use a Mesa Bass 400 into two 1x15 Thiele Cabs and a Bass 400 Plus into a Powerhouse 4x10 and 2x15. I had a rack full of gear. I used a Trace Preamp, Hush NR, Compander, Multi FX Unit all of it was in a huge Mesa Road Ready Rack. I could hurt you with my rig. Sadly those days are over.

Heck in 79 I used an SVT rig on one side of the stage and a Super Showman Rig on the other side. I remember our Guitar Player used to whine when I felt the need to pummel him. He was always whining about something.

Gezzzz, Red....if you took your entire rig from the 70's and went to the Arctic....and I took my rig to Antarctica....and we both started cranking out a 30 minute version of "Louie, Louie", we could have decimated Planet Earth. But then, you already know that, of course.

 

[Vic]

Well, at this point I've left the 4x10 behind long ago...but even so, nope. Not even a 4ohm 4x10.

To me, the way to roll is always to have the most flexibility in my setup choices down to 4ohms. What that means is I want to have multiple 8ohm cabs to choose from...

I can totally see this, and actually, I often do the same myself, but there are a lot of gigs where the 410 just works best for me and is a little more convenient than two cabs. Mine is also the older Epifani 410, so it's particularly light, which of course matters for my point.