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Sire M5 Review

ClassicJazz

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So last week I got a new Sire M5 bass. Paid only $550 on Reverb.
Ok, my impressions on this bass.

First, the workmanship and quality of this bass is incredible for $550. The swamp ash body has beautiful grain. It is a two piece body, yet you can barely tell were the seam is. They really matched the grain perfectly. The gloss finish on the body is perfect. Not one flaw found. The pickup routes again were perfectly done. The bridge is something you do not see on a bass at this cost. Very well made and actually is a similar design of the bridge on my Fodera Emperor. The bridge allows you to mount the strings through the back of the bridge or string through the body which is a nice touch. The knobs which I think are aluminum are solid as well as the switches.

The rear of the body there is the control cavity and battery cavity. Both have wood covers, again is a really nice touch and something you don't see on a bass at this price point. Some complained about the battery cover on the M5 which is held in by screws rather then a opening battery compartment like on the M7. To me, no big deal. Not like I change the batteries all the time (this requires 2 9V batteries). If they go dead at a gig, there is a passive switch.

The bolt on neck sports an Ebony fretboard. Again unheard of at this price point. It has the "rolled" edges which feels OH so good. The fretwork is absolutely perfect!! Something I could not say on a new Rickenbacker 4003SW which I bought new for 3 times the cost and had the worst fretwork I have ever seen!

The neck sort of feels like what you get on an Ibanez. Maybe a tad thicker. It is 19mm string spacing at the bridge and feels like a Jazz neck width at the nut. The neck is a 5 piece Maple/Mahogany and sports a bone nut. The back feels like an oil finish.

My only complaint is the headstock. Not that crazy about the shape of it. Maybe it will grow on me! LOL

The tuners are your standard sealed type and work fine. The truss rod cover is also wood! Again, a very nice touch.

Now onto to the sound.... There is so much you can do with this bass. You really need to spend time with it. The controls are a stacked Volume/Tone, pick up pan, treble, bass and a stacked mid/Mid frequency select.

The switches are passive/active and a Series/Single Coil/Parallel switch for each pick. The pickups are obviously split coil humbuckers (some what similar to the pickups on my Fodera).

After using the bass live, my favorite setting is the pickups in single coil mode. That is with the switches in the middle position. Sounds very much like an active Jazz bass. Very punchy and great slap tone. Sat great in the mix with the band. I pretty much kept the tone knobs flat and just boosted the bass a bit.

In humbucker mode, well the tones just ok. With the switches in the up position (not sure if that is series or parallel, I have not found any documentation that says which setting is which), I get a fairly nice mellow tone. Good for certain slow tunes and some jazzy stuff. Don't like the tone with them in the down position.

And lastly....the weight. This bass is ridiculously light! Under 8 lbs by my bathroom scale. Balances nice when standing. I did replace the stock strap buttons with Dunlop strap locks.

So overall, amazing bass for only $550!!! If I didn't know, I could have thought this bass easily cost over $1k. Other budget basses like Squier are not even in the same ballpark in regards to quality and features. I now see why there is so much buzz about the Sire line.

The photo is at a gig. Running it through a Fender Rumble 500.

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Nice! The M5 is indeed IMO one of the best Sire values out there. The preamp which they use in all their basses seems most at home in the M series bass, where IMO seems a bit overkill in the P and J type basses. The hardware, which has been a sticking point on other Sires, is very nice on the M5. It's definitely a 'jack of all trades' in the tone department. Congrats!
 
Nice! The M5 is indeed IMO one of the best Sire values out there. The preamp which they use in all their basses seems most at home in the M series bass, where IMO seems a bit overkill in the P and J type basses. The hardware, which has been a sticking point on other Sires, is very nice on the M5. It's definitely a 'jack of all trades' in the tone department. Congrats!

I'd be curious what a Mike Pope preamp would sound like in that bass! LOL Turn it into a budget Fodera! LOL
 
Nice! The M5 is indeed IMO one of the best Sire values out there. The preamp which they use in all their basses seems most at home in the M series bass, where IMO seems a bit overkill in the P and J type basses. The hardware, which has been a sticking point on other Sires, is very nice on the M5. It's definitely a 'jack of all trades' in the tone department. Congrats!

While I can understand a little why you would consider the pre overkill in a J or P I wholeheartedly disagree. I have a Sure V7 5 string and that pre gives it much versatility!

What I can agree with you on, though, is that Sir has a great, well thought out pre. A sweepable mid frequency gives a lot of versatility on it's own, but I don't know why ALL pre's that can be turned off don't include a passive tone control!
 
While I can understand a little why you would consider the pre overkill in a J or P I wholeheartedly disagree. I have a Sure V7 5 string and that pre gives it much versatility!

What I can agree with you on, though, is that Sir has a great, well thought out pre. A sweepable mid frequency gives a lot of versatility on it's own, but I don't know why ALL pre's that can be turned off don't include a passive tone control!

My Fodera has a passive tone control. Though I never turn off the preamp, it sounds too good to turn off!
 
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@ClassicJazz Thanks for the review. Congrats on your new bass.

A couple of questions:
1) is there a passive-tone knob?
2) can you get classic, passive J-bass and P-Bass type sounds?
Thanks.
 
@ClassicJazz Thanks for the review. Congrats on your new bass.

A couple of questions:
1) is there a passive-tone knob?
2) can you get classic, passive J-bass and P-Bass type sounds?
Thanks.
Yes to both questions. With the pickups in single coil mode it gets a killer 70’s Jazz tone. And a pretty good P-Bass tone when soloing the neck pickup. I actually prefer running it single coil rather then humbucking.
 
Thanks for the reply @ClassicJazz

@LowEndLobster : thanks for the multiple vids on the M5.

Couple of questions:
1) what’s the difference between a bass like the Fender Deluxe Active Precision Special and a bass like the M5 in terms of sound? I’ve never had a humbuckers like on the M5.

I’m interested in a lighter bass and a bass neck with a higher radius (eg the 12” radius on both those basses), but I also want to be able to play classic R&B type music when called upon. The M5 seems to fit the bill but I’m hesitant to drop the p-style pup I’ve always had.
And of course neither of these are in stock anywhere within 150 miles. Dumb pandemic!!


I guess the question might also be: why don’t more people use “modern” style basses like the M5.
any thoughts?

thanks!
 
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Thanks for the reply @ClassicJazz

@LowEndLobster : thanks for the multiple vids on the M5.

Couple of questions:
1) what’s the difference between a bass like the Fender Deluxe Active Precision Special and a bass like the M5 in terms of sound? I’ve never had a humbuckers like on the M5.

I’m interested in a lighter bass and a bass neck with a higher radius (eg the 12” radius on both those basses), but I also want to be able to play classic R&B type music when called upon. The M5 seems to fit the bill but I’m hesitant to drop the p-style pup I’ve always had.
And of course neither of these are in stock anywhere within 150 miles. Dumb pandemic!!


I guess the question might also be: why don’t more people use “modern” style basses like the M5.
any thoughts?

thanks!

My main bass is my Fodera Emperor. With the split coil pickups I can get almost any tone from a modern bass to a killer 70’s Jazz (I have a ‘72 Jazz, so I know the sound) to a great P-Bass tone. With the Sire, there are allot of tone options, actually more then my Fodera. The Sire has that sweepable mid control. And three modes for the pickups (series/single coil/parallel). The key is spending time with it. I am still learning what it can do.

My main band we do lots of styles of music. Having a bass like the Fodera or Sire comes in handy. If I am doing a blues gig, then I may just use my P-Bass. Think of them as Swiss Army knife of basses!
 
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My main bass is my Fodera Emperor. With the split coil pickups I can get almost any tone from a modern bass to a killer 70’s Jazz (I have a ‘72 Jazz, so I know the sound) to a great P-Bass tone. With the Sire, there are allot of tone options, actually more then my Fodera. The Sire has that sweepable mid control. And three modes for the pickups (series/single coil/parallel). The key is spending time with it. I am still learning what it can do.

My main band we do lots of styles of music. Having a bass like the Fodera or Sire comes in handy. If I am doing a blues gig, then I may just use my P-Bass. Think of them as Swiss Army knife of basses!

Well said! Not all tonal 'swiss army knives' of basses are as well rounded as the M5 IMO. It's not going to 100% nail every single tone, but you're definitely going to get in the ballpark with most of em. Like you said, spending time with the M5 and exploring the different pickup options is the best way of truly understanding such a relatively complex instrument. As I've said in my other Sire reviews, I think their preamp works best with the M series and especially in combination with the pickup switching.

Here's a vid I did on all the different pickup combos here (we didn't even touch the preamp in this one either).

 
My new M5 has arrived and it's beautiful. I'm loving the flatter fretboard radius, the tuners, and the weight.

But ... I cannot figure out why I'm hearing so much of the metal of the strings in the tone. It sounds like the actual metal. There's a lack of "roundness," or maybe "woodiness," to the tone.

The pickups are in
-- passive mode,
-- single coil mode,
-- neck pick-up only

The metal tone is in addition to a kind a buzzing that's also in the sound. I'm figuring (hoping) the buzzing is coming from the brand newness of strings.

For reference, I played a p-pickup bass for decades and have been playing a Fender Player Jazz for about the last half a year.

Lil' help? Thanks!
 
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