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Sire M7 Club

Yes, it's like the Elixir strings, so bright that they're not for any bass / any situation.
I will put these high beam on a Gibson bass I have and I'm sure they will serve better.
Good plan - Gibsons tend to have a natural bassy "thuddy" or "whumpy" sound, in my experience, the brightness should help.
 
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As I said last Friday I put fender strings on the M7.
But now that they've tamed, I'm not so satified with them.
I'd like to keep some of the medium brightness, and versatility of the M7 sound but without the high hiss.

Which strings would you advice for this ?

Sorry for my bad English.
 
As I said last Friday I put fender strings on the M7.
But now that they've tamed, I'm not so satified with them.
I'd like to keep some of the medium brightness, and versatility of the M7 sound but without the high hiss.

Which strings would you advice for this ?

Sorry for my bad English.

I didn't like the treble sound on my Ibanez BTB, especially on g-string when I got some basic roundwound strings.
Now I'm playing with GHS PressureWounds which feels much more balanced.

I'm about changing from BTB to M7 because
35"->34" scale
EQ bypass
Pickup versatility (single/parallel/series)

How does the passive side work? Is it easier to get more vintage vibe? (Flatwounds, p-bass, I know but is something organic possible to get with M7)

Thanks!
 
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I didn't like the treble sound on my Ibanez BTB, especially on g-string when I got some basic roundwound strings.
Now I'm playing with GHS PressureWounds which feels much more balanced.

I'm about changing from BTB to M7 because
35"->34" scale
EQ bypass
Pickup versatility (single/parallel/series)

How does the passive side work? Is it easier to get more vintage vibe? (Flatwounds, p-bass, I know but is something organic possible to get with M7)

Thanks!
Thanks for the strings advice. The only time I've tried GHS I found the round wound to harsh. I think they were GHS Boomers. Are the strings you mention softer?

The passive set up of the M7 works very well specially with not so bright strings.
If you turn the balance a bit toward the neck pickup, you get in that P territory. Obviously not exactly a P but in the organic side yes. Using the bridge pickup alone is not so satisfying in passive mode, I found it sound better with a bit of neck pup so you got more body, then it can give good expression.
Passive eq is very powerful so there is still enough versatility.
Parallel mode is interesting too while in passive mode.
 
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Thanks for the strings advice. The only time I've tried GHS I found the round wound to harsh. I think they were GHS Boomers. Are the strings you mention softer?

At their site, PressureWounds are listed few steps mellower than Boomers. Few steps mellower are NylonWounds. I feel the PressureWounds are quite fat sounding and even. I had also D'Addarios NylonWounds which were nice but those didn't have that midrange growl/punch and I didn't know what to do with the EQ :D

I'll have to try M7 somewhere, at least it looks good on specs and pictures :)
 
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Hi guys!

I'm looking to join the club and buy a M7; I can get a new 1st gen (the TBK 5 strings) for roughly $700 when the 2nd gen here in Europe is around $900.
Aesthetically speaking, I'm totally on the 1st gen - but I'm struggling to get information on the difference between the new and the old pick-ups (Marcus Pure Humbucker Set vs Marcus Pure-H Set Revolution) and I'm a bit afraid of buying the 1st gen to later find out a huge improvement on the 2nd generation.

So I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this or has tried both basses. I'm afraid here in my city and surroundings it's almost impossible to try both, unfortunately.
 
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How jazz can you get the m7?
Do you get jaco feeling with singlecoil bridge pickup setting?

Also do you all hear the buzz when you balance to one of the pickups in singe coil mode?
Yes I'm able to get close to Jaco's sound with the M7, but I worked my right hand technique to dig enough and I use a Zoom B3n so I can't tell if you can get it with the bass alone.

No, this bass is not noisy. Obviously, while in single coil, if I get close to my computer I can hear some noise. But at rehearsal studio, no noise at all. ( I've been in the same studio with a Ibanez sr655 And the bridge pickup makes noise)
 
Also keep in mind the (little publicized) fact that the bridge spacing on the M7 is actually adjustable! (At least on gen1, hope they kept that feature for gen2.)
 
Also keep in mind the (little publicized) fact that the bridge spacing on the M7 is actually adjustable! (At least on gen1, hope they kept that feature for gen2.)

Ids it really though? My memory can be faulty, but my recollection is that, while there were things out there to suggest that they were adjustable, Mickey said that, in fact, they were not.

If the saddles are in fact adjustable, what's the range? The Ibanez adjustable monorail bridges offer +/- 1.5 mm. How does the Sire compare?
 
Ids it really though? My memory can be faulty, but my recollection is that, while there were things out there to suggest that they were adjustable, Mickey said that, in fact, they were not.
Yeah, Mickey said they weren't, but once I found the right hex wrench for the grub screw, turns out, mine is, at least. I didn't mess with it much, just jiggled it enough to verify I could move it if I wanted to. No idea what the travel is, can't be a whole lot, but it would only need .2mm per to go from 18mm to 19mm spacing. I'll have to get it out again and get some close-up pics.
 
No idea what the travel is, can't be a whole lot, but it would only need .2mm per to go from 18mm to 19mm spacing. I'll have to get it out again and get some close-up pics.

Thanks for following up. I’d like to see the close-up photos you mentioned. Thank you for offering.

I should say that your calculation is not quire correct. Look at it this way: On an N-string bass, to achieve a change in spacing (assuming the spacings are all equal) of Delta, you need to move the outermost strings Delta*(N-1)/2.

So, on a 5-string bass, to achieve a 1-mm change in spacing you need a 2-mm change in position of each of the outermost strings (B and G in standard tuning). (You also need a 1-mm change in position of the next two [E and D] and a 0-mm change in the position of the center string [A], but those are not the limiting strings.)

If you start with the strings in the center of their range, you only have half the range of adjustment in each direction, so the range you would need is Delta*(N-1).

For our example of a 5-string bass and a 1-mm change, if you start in the middle of the range, that means you need a range of adjustment of 4 mm.

Everything gets a bit easier for a 4-string bass, of course.
 
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Thanks for following up. I’d like to see the close-up photos you mentioned. Thank you for offering.

I should say that your calculation is not quire correct. Look at it this way: On an N-string bass, to achieve a change in spacing (assuming the spacings are all equal) of Delta, you need to move the outermost strings Delta*(N-1)/2.

So, on a 5-string bass, to achieve a 1-mm change in spacing you need a 2-mm change in position of each of the outermost strings (B and G in standard tuning). (You also need a 1-mm change in position of the next two [E and D] and a 0-mm change in the position of the center string [A], but those are not the limiting strings.)

If you start with the strings in the center of their range, you only have half the range of adjustment in each direction, so the range you would need is Delta*(N-1).

For our example of a 5-string bass and a 1-mm change, if you start in the middle of the range, that means you need a range of adjustment of 4 mm.

Everything gets a bit easier for a 4-string bass, of course.
I could have sworn I found a wrench to fit it, but searching back through my old posts, if I ever did, I forgot to post it on here. Hmmmm. Memory fades. Getting it out again and giving it another run.
 
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