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The didn't move anything, they started production at the Indonesia factory and still have that factory and added a factory in China to increase production volume. As I understand things, at least.[
Actually, they have moved to Indonesia...
This may actually allow them to cut costs more, it would look kinda like this:
1-Skip traditional broker level distribution (less expensive dealer direct prices)
2-Require purchase minimums to qualify as a dealer (increased average order volume)
3-Leverage larger buying power to negotiate lower parts and labour costs and more efficient production (lower cost of goods sold)
4-Ships in bulk to new dealers and let dealers use their own more efficient retail level distribution network (lower cost of delivery)
In the end there's more profit available, so the retailer can get their margin and Sire would still have a substantial cut. As sales volumes rise this model becomes more viable.
In theory anyways, I suppose this relies on Sire's ability to sign profitable agreements.
1-Skip traditional broker level distribution (less expensive dealer direct prices)
2-Require purchase minimums to qualify as a dealer (increased average order volume)
3-Leverage larger buying power to negotiate lower parts and labour costs and more efficient production (lower cost of goods sold)
4-Ships in bulk to new dealers and let dealers use their own more efficient retail level distribution network (lower cost of delivery)
In the end there's more profit available, so the retailer can get their margin and Sire would still have a substantial cut. As sales volumes rise this model becomes more viable.
In theory anyways, I suppose this relies on Sire's ability to sign profitable agreements.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
Even if it is a few dollars more, I would much rather buy on in stock in a store:
- you get it right away
- you know the exact instrument you are getting
Look at it this way. If you keep your instrument for 10 years, that comes to $10 a year, a under a buck a month, or under a penny a day. It's not worth THAT to you to be sure you get exactly what you want? I keep my instruments for years (I've had my main player for over 30).
- you get it right away
- you know the exact instrument you are getting
Look at it this way. If you keep your instrument for 10 years, that comes to $10 a year, a under a buck a month, or under a penny a day. It's not worth THAT to you to be sure you get exactly what you want? I keep my instruments for years (I've had my main player for over 30).
I saw that too. I thought it was weird. I've noticed their website is a little haphazard.
The consumer in me likes the idea because I'd really like to try one to see if they live up to the hype.
The business man in me thinks this is a bad idea. Sire is able to keep their prices low but not wasting inventory that sits on shelves, and by cutting out the middle man. It is a lean operation that promotes low costs, and then low prices. If you put them in stores, I think they will either have to raise their prices, or take a hit on their bottom line.
The business man in me thinks this is a bad idea. Sire is able to keep their prices low but not wasting inventory that sits on shelves, and by cutting out the middle man. It is a lean operation that promotes low costs, and then low prices. If you put them in stores, I think they will either have to raise their prices, or take a hit on their bottom line.
Sire is still a great value: $599.00 for White Blonde Ash V. I have the Tobacco Sunburst Ash fiver...
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Sire is still a great value: $599.00 for White Blonde Ash V. I have the Tobacco Sunburst Ash fiver...
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[ Estimated ship date: 12th February 2017 ]
I really hope they don't but glad most of us got one during the beginning stages. I love my V7.
Just remember, there's still a wait involved at the dealers - before the bass is even there. Just because you didn't know about it sooner than it appeared doesn't make the actual build and shipping pipeline any shorter, just delays the first point that the bass is visible.[ Estimated ship date: 12th February 2017 ]
Right now I am looking through from a dealer's perspective.
If the company's own website is showing their products back ordered for a month, then how would they be able to supply me (shop interested in becoming a dealer) when the website distribution would always be a priority? Either space in the back would be sitting empty (longer delays due to back ordered products) or there would be too much inventory (was told there was a back order of at least a month and next day products arrive).
Thomann has a lot of muscle in Europe - even more so than Sire's own US distribution because they have items in stock that the US doesn't. Now if Thomann says "we need more right now," guess who is going to suffer?
Yeah, getting it right is indeed going to be tricky as others have said as well. This isn't a risk-free undertaking for them by any means. Fingers crossed.
Yes, "based in" - they do have another factory in China now in addition to the one in Indonesia (or at least they did).
Yea I think you're right. I know when I was getting my V7 there was debate on hoping the bass was from Indonesia instead of China because of QC issues.
