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Slow down effects pedal?

the slow enigne, slow machine or reverse delays(downwards spiral) are not really what i am looking for.

i don't want to slow the after sound(reverb, delay, echo) of the phrase, but the actual phrase itself.

playing a major scale in quarter notes. turn on pedal half way though and the notes slow down and change pitch lower in conjunction with slowing to the point of almost stopping. a looper is what i used to use, but i don't want to repeat it then slow it down. just slow down the end of a phrase.


just like to thank you all so far. there are so many great pedals out there that i get super gas for other pedals when i am researching for one.
 
The Digitech XP300 Space Station actually had a mode that did exactly this. It samples your playing without adding delay, then when you rock the expression pedal down it slows down playback of the last second or two of audio. RAM was more expensive back then so it doesn't have longer sampling times like a modern looper but functionally I believe that's exactly what you're after.

They're a bit tough to find these days, but there was somebody who sold other XP series pedals modded to have the functionality of the Space Station, or even a rotary switch to select any of the XP series in one unit. The trail on the following thread seems to have gone cold but he may still be offering these - he's the admin of Guitar Geek I think.

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Modes 10-13, "warp".

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Hrm. On my BP355 I can set delay speed to the expression pedal, and it does the slowdown effect nicely. Actually, same goes with my DigiTech PDS-1002, either hitting a note & turning the knob or hitting the Infinite switch & mangling to my heart's content, & likewise on my Echo Puss, but sans the Infinite control. It's got big enough knobs, I could foot-control the repeat time one with a little practice.

There's various software plugins that do the total dropout in glitch VST packs and the like, and there's grain delay effects in software and now in a couple of hardware pedals which can screw with the pitch a lot.


As for something that automatically starts slowing the repeats down... my mind goes back to software, like Sugar Bytes Effectrix. If there's a pedal that does so in the style of regular repeats and not granular, I gotta say I'm interested.
 
This is one of the many effects I used to use the Jamman for. The Jammans with memory cards (all recent ones except the express) you can put anything on them. I've sampled everything from bass drops, to channel switching white noise, guitar loops you name it. But to best use it as a sampler I kept it out of my bass sognal chain and ran it to a cheap imp2 DI that way the bass drops in particular don't fart out the cab and the higher pitched stuff doesn't sound muffled going through the bass rig.
 
Any delay that has LFO control of the delay time can sound like slowing down/falling in pitch, just like dragging your thumb on a spinning LP...provided you A) only listen to the delayed output (no dry signal), B) are prepared to wait a certain amount of time after you've played the actual phrase that you want to sound like it's slowing down, and C) only listen during the falling portion of the LFO waveform...because during the rising portion of the LFO waveform it'll sound like it's speeding up/rising in pitch!

This last caveat is actually not completely unusual: The old blackface rackmount MXR Digital Time Delay had an interesting "feature" (sic) where releasing the delay bypass would re-trigger the LFO to its zero crossing point, so the sweep would always start at the same point every time you stepped on the bypass footswitch. In the early 80s I played in a band with a guitarist who used this effect to specifically do a record-slowing-down/pitch drop on cue repeatedly during the verses of one of our tunes. Very cool effect!