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Small Rig Shootout

#22
Same thing happens with the ODB-3 pedal, if I just click it up a notch gives a little overdrive, tubey like, but if I go more sounds too digital.
Think "Around the world" by RHCP where flea plays the intro, very modern overdrive (which I do like for some songs). I guess my question is, the tune tone is design to be an overdrive dial or to warm up the sound.

PS Greg, really appreciate you putting these recordings together. They are a HUGE help.

-Chris
 
#24
I didn't have Wheaties for breakfast, but you wouldn't know it listening to this clip! Man, a day away from blues soloing, and I've got some newfound stank at my fingertips! Jeez, this was fun!! Sloppy, but fun! And I can't stand stainless steel strings - sorry for all the string chatter in this clip!

Anyway, since I'm 0 for 2 making the Classic 450 sound good on tape, I decided to just focus on it for this clip. I wanted to make a good sounding clip, AND I wanted Chris (and everyone else) to hear the effect of the Tubetone knob. So I pulled the Warwick Dolphin off the wall, and I setup a recording closet in one of our lesson rooms with the Classic 450 and Berg HT112ER in there with the same AT mic. Just to make things fast, I put four new passes in the same "I'm Ready" project (the drum and chord loops are the same).

Here are the intial Classic 450 settings that you hear in pass 1:
Gain: 3
SpectraComp: 1
Bass: 0
Lo-mid: -1
Hi Mid: +1
Treble: +1.75
Tubetone: 0
Master: 2.5

Pass 2: Tubetone = 1

Pass 3: Tubetone = 2

Pass 4: Tubetone = 3

The bassline was recorded with the blend centered and the bass boosted just a hair. The lead lines were recorded with a good bias towards the bridge pickup, treble cut slightly and bass flat. I didn't run a direct line, so all you're hearing is the mic'd bass.

Enjoy!
"I'm Ready (Classic 450 Version)" Entire Mix
"I'm Ready (Classic 450 Version)" No Leads
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed] Bass Only
 
#25
Sounds growly, just what I was looking for. It is amazing how much strings can make a difference, I run SS on one my 'wick corvettes it can get a little clanky for sure but really brightens up the tone.

The RH450 really does sound great! Now to decide on a cabinet hmmm
 
#29
chjohnst said:
Hehe, I also play a fender though as my primary axe. My warwick I use mostly for slap bass or some funk.

Yea I know you said the berg, but I am seriously considering (1) RS212 and (1) RS210. Its funny how last week I said I wasn't sure I liked the look of TC electronic amps/cabs but they are growing on me.

http://www.rocketmusic.net/images/TC-IN-STORE.jpg
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And that would be a killer combination! I think I mentioned in an email that I wouldn't recommend the RS-210 all by itself (it's a little thin), but it sounds great with an RS-212 under it.
 
#30
RocketMusic said:
I didn't have Wheaties for breakfast, but you wouldn't know it listening to this clip! Man, a day away from blues soloing, and I've got some newfound stank at my fingertips! Jeez, this was fun!! Sloppy, but fun! And I can't stand stainless steel strings - sorry for all the string chatter in this clip!

Anyway, since I'm 0 for 2 making the Classic 450 sound good on tape, I decided to just focus on it for this clip. I wanted to make a good sounding clip, AND I wanted Chris (and everyone else) to hear the effect of the Tubetone knob. So I pulled the Warwick Dolphin off the wall, and I setup a recording closet in one of our lesson rooms with the Classic 450 and Berg HT112ER in there with the same AT mic. Just to make things fast, I put four new passes in the same "I'm Ready" project (the drum and chord loops are the same).

Here are the intial Classic 450 settings that you hear in pass 1:
Gain: 3
SpectraComp: 1
Bass: 0
Lo-mid: -1
Hi Mid: +1
Treble: +1.75
Tubetone: 0
Master: 2.5

Pass 2: Tubetone = 1

Pass 3: Tubetone = 2

Pass 4: Tubetone = 3

The bassline was recorded with the blend centered and the bass boosted just a hair. The lead lines were recorded with a good bias towards the neck pickup, treble cut slightly and bass flat. I didn't run a direct line, so all you're hearing is the mic'd bass.

Enjoy!
"I'm Ready (Classic 450 Version)" Entire Mix
"I'm Ready (Classic 450 Version)" No Leads
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed] Bass Only
Click to expand...

Wow, this is slammin' really dig this.
 
#31
RocketMusic said:
So who's ready for a chorus or a bridge at this point? I think Danny is about to blow his brains out. It's bad enough to have to listen to a bassist solo, but to have me do it over and over again on top of the exact same 12-bar blues is killing him :D
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Tell Danny to grab the skinny six and a mic and cut it proper;)

Gotta have a B Side to "Fine Little Mama" don't ya?:bassist:

:D

Edit; Tell 'im not to forget his pickin' shoes. ;)

God Bless, Ray
 
#32
RocketMusic said:
I didn't have Wheaties for breakfast, but you wouldn't know it listening to this clip! Man, a day away from blues soloing, and I've got some newfound stank at my fingertips! Jeez, this was fun!! Sloppy, but fun! And I can't stand stainless steel strings - sorry for all the string chatter in this clip!

Anyway, since I'm 0 for 2 making the Classic 450 sound good on tape, I decided to just focus on it for this clip. I wanted to make a good sounding clip, AND I wanted Chris (and everyone else) to hear the effect of the Tubetone knob. So I pulled the Warwick Dolphin off the wall, and I setup a recording closet in one of our lesson rooms with the Classic 450 and Berg HT112ER in there with the same AT mic. Just to make things fast, I put four new passes in the same "I'm Ready" project (the drum and chord loops are the same).

Here are the intial Classic 450 settings that you hear in pass 1:
Gain: 3
SpectraComp: 1
Bass: 0
Lo-mid: -1
Hi Mid: +1
Treble: +1.75
Tubetone: 0
Master: 2.5

Pass 2: Tubetone = 1

Pass 3: Tubetone = 2

Pass 4: Tubetone = 3

The bassline was recorded with the blend centered and the bass boosted just a hair. The lead lines were recorded with a good bias towards the neck pickup, treble cut slightly and bass flat. I didn't run a direct line, so all you're hearing is the mic'd bass.
Click to expand...

lol
What a committed guy! :)

Greg,
Those solo parts really sound nice with a touch of tube tone. While I had mine I played around with it some and got a real cool Jack Bruce Cream tone.
It had to be good because my wife came all the way up the stairs to close my music room door!
I was really into "Crossroads" and the door slamming timed perfectly on "1" after a cool ascending run! :eek: :help:
 
#33
JOME77 said:
I was really into "Crossroads" and the door slamming timed perfectly on "1" after a cool ascending run! :eek: :help:
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It was so good, she felt compelled to join in? Is that really your story? :scowl:

Where's Mrs. Joe? We'll get the real skinny from her. She and Danny can conference call and commiserate... :D
 
#38
I finally got a chance to hear the GB Shuttle 9.0 this afternoon. TB'er Leurastus brought a new one by the house to let me hear it through the Berg HT-112 (pre ER version). He had it on his shoulder in the gig bag and I swear it looked like he was carrying a mini-camcorder!

It definitely had a nice phat sound through the Berg. The slap sound really sounded nice, especially with the mid scoop sw. engaged. Lot's of nice highs too.
For me though, the TC RH450 had a more organic warm tone and I tend to favor that sound. Of course the RH450 does lack highs, especially for slap. No Marcus slap tone out of the RH450. Since I don't slap much these days, that really doesn't bother me but it would be nice to have a touch more highs if needed.

Bottom line, as Greg's recordings demo, both are very good sounding amps. And the Berg's are great sounding cab's!

In the end though, after Leurastus left, I plugged the Thunderfunk back into the Berg and cranked it up ... :eek: :bassist::bassist::bassist:

... :hmm: I think I can still lug around a 16 lb. class B amp. ;)

I may just be destined to play Roscoe's, Thunderfunks and Berg's the rest of my life! :D
 

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