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Smoothest (best sounding) roundwounds

Smoothest (best sounding) roundwounds

  • TI Jazz Rounds

    Votes: 34 25.4%
  • DR Sunbeams

    Votes: 38 28.4%
  • GHS Pressurerounds

    Votes: 15 11.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 47 35.1%

  • Total voters
    134
Ah, are we talking about smoothness is FEEL? My reply was about smoothness in TONE.

Sorry if I got this all wrong...??
Maybe both ha ha! I find PW to be a smooth in feel sort of RW, not too fret clanky...ive had to raise the action on RW strings...im not really sure what smoothness in tone means exactly but some say they are mid heavy...but where in the mid frequency range?

I do have a semi parametric EQ on my Eden Metro so i can fine tune moreso than other amps...PW do sound good right off like RW...plus i can get the action super low with no string flop (which has been an issue with RW before)...not much help lol!
 
Maybe both ha ha! I find PW to be a smooth in feel sort of RW, not too fret clanky...ive had to raise the action on RW strings...im not really sure what smoothness in tone means exactly but some say they are mid heavy...but where in the mid frequency range?

I do have a semi parametric EQ on my Eden Metro so i can fine tune moreso than other amps...PW do sound good right off like RW...plus i can get the action super low with no string flop (which has been an issue with RW before)...not much help lol!

"Where in the mid frequency range" is always a VERY good question. I always wonder what people actually mean when they say "mids".

The GHS Pressurewounds have a strong mid presence in the middle-to-upper mids. Higher up the midrange than what bass players often seem to refer to as mids (which often seems to be the lower mids). Personally I've never liked these strings on P-basses I (which is what I use the most). The tone gets too mid-forward for MY taste and MY playing style. I've liked them better on other basses though.

You're right about Pressurewounds handling low action brilliantly. They're a bit like Roto 77 flats in that respect. Their stiffness can make them rather hard on your hands unless you lower the setup slightly lower than you would with standard roundwounds (at comparable gauges). But with the right setup they feel great!
 
"Where in the mid frequency range" is always a VERY good question. I always wonder what people actually mean when they say "mids".

The GHS Pressurewounds have a strong mid presence in the middle-to-upper mids. Higher up the midrange than what bass players often seem to refer to as mids (which often seems to be the lower mids). Personally I've never liked these strings on P-basses I (which is what I use the most). The tone gets too mid-forward for MY taste and MY playing style. I've liked them better on other basses though.

You're right about Pressurewounds handling low action brilliantly. They're a bit like Roto 77 flats in that respect. Their stiffness can make them rather hard on your hands unless you lower the setup slightly lower than you would with standard roundwounds (at comparable gauges). But with the right setup they feel great!
I think the fact i like really low action (which requires a very good neck setup) is maybe why i stick with PWs...i also play with various picks all over; near the bridge and sometimes over the fretboard..i dont thumb anchor on a pickup.

What do you like in a RW that doesnt flop and allows low action? I will check out the Roto 77 but i hear they have a LOT of tension, no? Fender 9050 flats are somewhat bright more akin to RW....definitely not a LaBella lol!
 
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I think the fact i like really low action (which requires a very good neck setup) is maybe why i stick with PWs...i also play with various picks all over; near the bridge and sometimes over the fretboard..i dont thumb anchor on a pickup.

What do you like in a RW that doesnt flop and allows low action? I will check out the Roto 77 but i hear they have a LOT of tension, no? Fender 9050 flats are somewhat bright more akin to RW....definitely not a LaBella lol!

Most hex core roundwounds are more or less the same when it comes to stiffness (which is a key factor for allowing low action). There will be minor differences but nothing comparable to the GHS Pressurewounds or Roto flats. Maybe Roto 66s? They don't really fell stiffer than other hex core roundwounds but they respond really well to digging in hard. I guess it depends on whether you like their rather unique tone. They're not for everyone.

Yes, Roto flats have a rather high tension when comparing to similar gauges roundwounds but they ARE available in lighter gauges.

I prefer the 45-105 set though. It's definitely on the tight/still side but I think this set has a slightly better tone then the lighter gauges. When set up the way you would set up 45-105 roundwounds they can be VERY hard on your fretting hand. When lowering the action as much as Roto flats will alllow they are not really that bad at all. Still, they are definitely on the stiff side. In fact, they share some similarities with GHS Pressurewounds: Tight/stiff feel (when comparing to similar gauges roundwounds). A tone that's kinda halfway between rounds/flats. A semi-smooth surface. Very unique mids (although both are very different).

GHS Pressurewounds and Roto flats have one rather significant difference though: GHS Pressurewounds have a rather high output (Alloy 52). Roto flats have a very low output (monel). Monel has an even lower output than pure nickels strings.

Also, Roto flats develop a rather unbalanced tone across the strings over time. The E+A strings stay relatively bright for a VERY long time. The D+G strings mellow out quite fast. This can feel a bit weird when practising alone but for some reason it always seems to work great in a mix or with a full band.

Personally I prefer the tone of the Rotos over the Pressurewounds but both of these strings are a bit on the stiff/tight side for my taste. I like a bit more flexibility and "bounce". For band rehearsals and playing live, where I like to dig in hard, I prefer feel/response of hex core, roundwounds (45-105). For studio work, where I tend to play a bit more controlled, I often prefer the looser feel of round core, roundwounds (same gauges though, 45-105). With flats I sometimes go as low as 40-100, although it depends on the type of flats. Roto 77s are the exception. I love the tone of these strings (45-105) so much that I'm willing to accept the stiffer feel and higher tension.
 
I think the fact i like really low action (which requires a very good neck setup) is maybe why i stick with PWs...i also play with various picks all over; near the bridge and sometimes over the fretboard..i dont thumb anchor on a pickup.

What do you like in a RW that doesnt flop and allows low action? I will check out the Roto 77 but i hear they have a LOT of tension, no? Fender 9050 flats are somewhat bright more akin to RW....definitely not a LaBella lol!

I forgot the Roto 55 Pressurewounds. Very similar tone to Roto 66 steels but stiffer. They also last significantly longer than Roto 66s in my experience.

Roto 55s feel very much like roundwounds. Or to be more precise: Like stiffer roundwounds. They ARE pressurewounds but they have a MUCH rougher surface than GHS Pressurewounds. I think the windings may be compressed sideways rather than "flattened". At least that's how they feel. If you like stiffer strings, want something that feels a bit more like roundwounds and you also like the Roto-tone (which isn't for everyone) they could be worth checking out. Roto 55s tend to go under the radar. Maybe because they're usually a bit more expensive than Roto 66. But like I said, in my experience they also last longer, if you like a bright tone. Personally I like Rotos when they've mellowed out a bit so for ME the standard 66s are a better choice.

As for tension, I think the Roto 55s are more or less like standard roundwounds. Maybe even slightly lower. But they FEEL stiffer under your fingers. Not quite as stiff as GHS Pressurewounds though.
 
The funny thing about all of this is, time was, there were only a handful of basses and a handful of strings to choose from, (When I bought my '73 Jazz, there were only two basses on the wall in the local shop. The Jazz, and a Oly white P with RW board and tort guard), and we still made great music.
All of these are great strings. I just have to find the one that is great for me.
Decision fatigue...
;-)
 
I'd say it takes at least half a year of regular playing for the 9050s to mature. And then they possible have less treble content but more mids content than the LaBella DTF, across all four strings and especially the D and G strings.
My bro has a 80's Peavey Fury P type with 9050s, been on there for years well played...Duncan SPB1...sounds like a P bass should really...no reason to change, they seem well balanced.
 
The funny thing about all of this is, time was, there were only a handful of basses and a handful of strings to choose from, (When I bought my '73 Jazz, there were only two basses on the wall in the local shop. The Jazz, and a Oly white P with RW board and tort guard), and we still made great music.
All of these are great strings. I just have to find the one that is great for me.
Decision fatigue...
;-)

Having too many choices may in fact make life more complicated. By the way, I hope you also bought the Oly P! ;)
 
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My bro has a 80's Peavey Fury P type with 9050s, been on there for years well played...Duncan SPB1...sounds like a P bass should really...no reason to change, they seem well balanced.

Just noticed that reggae dub bass maestro Flabba Holt has 9050s on his iconic (for dub aficionados) Jbass.

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Having too many choices may in fact make life more complicated. By the way, I hope you also bought the Oly P! ;)
Ha! Were it that I had...
Didn't like P's. Didn't like the white. Didn't like RW. Didn't like tort.
Now all I play are P's with RW and tort.
Still no White...
;-)
This is why Trader Joes business model works well. They make the choices for us.
Want peanut butter?
Four choices; organic chunky and smooth, non-organic chunky and smooth. Done.
;-)
 
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The funny thing about all of this is, time was, there were only a handful of basses and a handful of strings to choose from, (When I bought my '73 Jazz, there were only two basses on the wall in the local shop. The Jazz, and a Oly white P with RW board and tort guard), and we still made great music.
All of these are great strings. I just have to find the one that is great for me.
Decision fatigue...
;-)
My bros 80s Peavey Fury P type is white w RW board and tort guard! It has a J type neck though. I knew a guy decades back, had a early 70's J bass he bought new, it had to weigh at least 11 lbs...i bet he still has it...sunburst, it was beautiful.

The string choice these days is overwhelming...if it werent for TalkBass how would you know where to begin? I do recall a lot of messed up necks many decades ago, string action way off the board etc...part of the reason i stayed away from bass was flats with sky high action..i thought and was told that was normal lol!
 
Ha! Were it that I had...
Didn't like P's. Didn't like the white. Didn't like RW. Didn't like tort.
Now all I play are P's with RW and tort.
Still no White...
;-)
This is why Trader Joes business model works well. They make the choices for us.
Want peanut butter?
Four choices; organic chunky and smooth, non-organic chunky and smooth. Done.
;-)

Interestingly, I've been considering a NOS 2010 Fender Am.Std. Oly Pbass, RW with tort! It's been forgotten in some shop for ages.

If I go ahead, tort will be replaced with a black pickguard.

What do you think?
 
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My bros 80s Peavey Fury P type is white w RW board and tort guard! It has a J type neck though. I knew a guy decades back, had a early 70's J bass he bought new, it had to weigh at least 11 lbs...i bet he still has it...sunburst, it was beautiful.

The string choice these days is overwhelming...if it werent for TalkBass how would you know where to begin? I do recall a lot of messed up necks many decades ago, string action way off the board etc...part of the reason i stayed away from bass was flats with sky high action..i thought and was told that was normal lol!

10.5 lbs here. Glorious tone, but I don't gig it. I wouldn't last the night...
 
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