So 70's Fender are desirable now?!

[Son of Wobble]

Look at a group of pictures selected randomly showing 70 s P basses and jazz basses ... 70s jazz basses almost always appears to be much more road worn with a bad opaque resulting finish and a completely orange headstock ... this is the impression I’ve got with notable exceptions of course and I don’t know why ... I don’t like them aestetically in these conditions ... then, of course, many people like the orange headstock but to me this is a little too much in terms of natural relicing ... I’d pass over

You do indeed have a very refined and narrow aesthetic. Perhaps that is a natural result of looking at one thing critically for so long?

I likewise find my taste in Precisions narrowing to ash bodies and maple fingerboards. Little things like Hootenanny buttons which once charmed and intrigued me are meaningless to me know. In fact, a thread I did on tug bars featured a poll suggesting that the appendage was confusing to non-initiates, who thought it some sort of training wheel .

So I understand your critical eye, but tend to disagree. For instance, I like the vintage tint necks irrespective of era. And as we discussed on the Precision thread, I don't share your preference that neck and body necessarily must appear to be of the same vintage to seem "right." To me, Fenders are from a parts bucket, ultimately -- and that is their strength and charm.

 

[mesaplayer83]

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Two clean 1978 dead stock Jazzes. Most recent one came from GC a couple of years ago for $1,100. I got the other one for $500 from a pawnshop. So for anyone who needs to think there are no deals out there... thanks for not looking.

Very nice, Brad!!!

 

[Spidey2112]

but that Jazz Basses don't age well compared to Precisions...

I'm going to give @Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati, the benefit of the doubt, on this... maybe, he meant appreciation/depreciation between the two models? Whaddya say, Gianni?

Edit: Just read Post #259... that's his story, and he' sticking to it!

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

I'm going to give @Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati, the benefit of the doubt, on this... maybe, he meant appreciation/depreciation between the two models? Whaddya say, Gianni?

Edit: Just read Post #259... that's his story, and he' sticking to it!

Spidey, look, i am a Fender-Defender by definition ... hence my position is as follows: if somebody tells me that, by definition, 70s Fender instruments are all bad, by definition, I have to disagree ... however whether I would buy one is a different story ... I would prefer P basses as I believe that the original P bass 70s pickups sound different if compared to those installed on the 60s models ... however the PB70 + GZR Bass i own has pretty much closed this chapter for me ... jazz basses are not really appealing to me except those which are in very good conditions ... fact is that I like more the 60s models, which are unreachable for me in terms of their price ... I’d like to buy another and last jazz bass but it will rather be a used 60s style CS or an Ocean Turquoise Am. Elite ... that’s me of course
Hope I have clarified my position finally.

 

[Spidey2112]

Spidey, look, i am a Fender-Defender by definition ... hence my position is as follows: if somebody tells me that, by definition, 70s Fender instruments are all bad, by definition, I have to disagree ... however whether I would buy one is a different story ... I would prefer P basses as I believe that the original P bass 70s pickups sound different if compared to those installed on the 60s models ... however the PB70 + GZR Bass i own has pretty much closed this chapter for me ... jazz basses are not really appealing to me except those which are in very good conditions ... fact is that I like more the 60s models, which are unreachable for me in terms of their price ... I’d like to buy another and last jazz bass but it will rather be a used 60s style CS or an Ocean Turquoise Am. Elite ... that’s me of course
Hope I have clarified my position finally.

You have my friend, you have... and I will mine...

... Java Supra (auto-correct... ), with a twist of Yahtzee thrown in, for good measure...

... and honey... I almost forgot the honey... you have to have the honey, or it might as well be Yahtzee.

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

You have my friend, you have... and I will mine...

... Java Supra (auto-correct... ), with a twist of Yahtzee thrown in, for good measure...

... and honey... I almost forgot the honey... you have to have the honey, or it might as well be Yahtzee.

 

[Spidey2112]

I get that a lot... Have a good day, my friend...

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

I get that a lot... Have a good day, my friend...

Same to you Spidey

 

[Brad Johnson]

These guys are clean and not oranged/yellowed at the headstock ! For 500USD the second one was a real bargain !

Thanks... IME $1,100 for either of them would be a steal.

I'm hanging onto both of them. Learned my lesson when I traded my 54 P bass for a brand new first year Stingray. Ouch.

 

[DirkP]

I'm going to give @Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati, the benefit of the doubt, on this... maybe, he meant appreciation/depreciation between the two models? Whaddya say, Gianni?

Edit: Just read Post #259... that's his story, and he' sticking to it!

I did read Post #259 and I quote it in its entirety:

See the P basses ? They generally look in better shape as those of 9mmMike’s collection...

This is about the most profound and in-depth analysis of Fender I have ever read. I surrender...

 

[JMacBass65]

Learned my lesson when I traded my 54 P bass for a brand new first year Stingray. Ouch.

 

[ajkula66]

Learned my lesson when I traded my 54 P bass for a brand new first year Stingray. Ouch.

 

[Brad Johnson]

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The funny thing was that my young, dumb___ thought I was getting over...
"Can't believe I got this brand new bass straight up for this old bass! Suckers!"


The saving grace was I only found out about it a few years later when I was showing someone pictures of my old bass. I still don't even remember where I got it from. Maybe I'm the villain in their story.

Lesson learned.

 

[Brad Johnson]

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Probably why I don't care for P basses much anymore. Psychosomatic.

 

[stefancaunter]

That is very much possible. I am positive I had this bass before 1976. I remember having this bass in my senior year of high school, which would mean it is really a 1972.
I suppose if I took the neck off, I'd see a date. That's not going to happen, unless it needs to come off.

Neck has never been off my 73 either, no need.

 

[stefancaunter]

Honestly I’d rather buy a mint Am. Pro. jazz bass for that money ... not because I don’t believe that 70s jazz basses can sound nice but because, in general and unlike P basses of the same period, jazz basses seem not to age well ... of it is only my impression?

Your am pro will have depreciation from new. Your vintage one won’t. Up to you, but I’ve always bought vintage guitars -over the years, every one of them has appreciated

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

Your am pro will have depreciation from new. Your vintage one won’t. Up to you, but I’ve always bought vintage guitars -over the years, every one of them has appreciated

This is probably right but I definitely buy instruments just for the sake of the music itself although with some more economic difficulties nowadays ...

 

[Hot Rats]

I'm hanging onto both of them. Learned my lesson when I traded my 54 P bass for a brand new first year Stingray. Ouch.

Hmmmmm... I traded a late 70s BC Rich Mockingbird for a Tascam 4-track cassette recorder.

 

[Brad Johnson]

Hmmmmm... I traded a late 70s BC Rich Mockingbird for a Tascam 4-track cassette recorder.

I bought a used BC Rich for $500 back in the late 70's to trade straight up for an odd looking new bass (1978) called a Tobias.

A 4-track?

 

[Hot Rats]

Yep, a 4 track . As crazy as it sounds now it did open up the world of multitrack recording for me and my friend. But, I most definitely regret it now.