So.....Edumicate me on bass HPF pedals.....

[scott sinner]

It seems a company called Broughton (SP ?), makes these and they seem to be highly regarded here.

Are there other units I should consider?

Experiences with these and what is available would be some great information.

My rational for getting one is I often use a small setup with a single 2 x 10" cab and that cab does not have a ton of low end, but my style is not a "lots of low end" style anyway and I don't play five string.

Seems like a HPF would be a great addition to cut the stuff the cab is not producing at much volume anyway.

So what do you guys have, use, recommend?

I have a Broughton one and I am happy with it.

I think a high pass is great to deal with the mud of different live rooms. A really nice sounding room, I may use a pretty low setting, a bad one, I'll cut more.

But I in particular got the Broughton as I was running more synthy sounds through my bass amp and I in part was wanting to protect and get the most out of, like you, some 2x10s.

 

[dbsfgyd1]

Since there can't be any true latency due to the architecture, what you may be perceiving is a combination of the amp voicing (including the HPF and possibly some dynamics) and the speaker cabinet. The HPF, adaptive dynamics management combined with the speaker cabinet design made this new generation of compact, high powered combos possible.

Otherwise, I don't know what else it may be.

Thanks for the explanation. Very helpful.

 

[Pings Bass]

+1 for the fdeck HPF. I got one to use as a buffering preamp for DB, but ended up using it for BG, too. Completely transparent sound, and very easy to dial in. Totally reasonable price, too.

 

[jthisdell]

It is counter intuitive to use a hpf to cut your very lows and then also boost the bass to bring out the freq's you want but that is what makes good toan, gets the most out of your amp and protects your speakers

 

[Ggaa]

Are fdecks discontinued? Can't find anything online.

 

[Bartrinsic]

One and done, with a good DI. No effects routing with this unit, but it does what it does do so well, I wouldn't add a thing.
https://www.broughtonaudio.com/product-page/messenger

 

[Jim C]

Are fdecks discontinued? Can't find anything online.

Nope and I was in contact with Francis last week. He makes an awesome HPF Series 3 for electric bass
hpftechllc - HPF-Pre, updated December 15, 2019

 

[jnewmark]

All ShuttleMax models have the variable "LF Boost" filter which was originally called a "LF Extend" filter but we changed the name to "LF Boost" after some players had trouble understanding the concept of low frequency extension.
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Actually, the concept goes back to the switched filters in the GBE-400 and the variable filters in the GBE-600 and NeoX-400, which were released for production at the end of 2001, so my 20 year recollection (and memory fortunately) is correct.
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ML-200 , NeoPak and later the Shuttle models which also had this filter but it was switched between 2 points rather than just being hidden and fixed, and the terminology was changed with the ML-200 era products to be LF Boost though the filters remained identical.
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Ahh, I was thinking more like the variable ones on the Subway amps.

 

[Smurf-o-Deth]

I use a Broughton Resonant Filter Equalizer, which has both the HPF and LPF, as well as resonance controls for each, and a semi-parametric mids control.

 

[agedhorse]

Ahh, I was thinking more like the variable ones on the Subway amps.

It is in effect a variable high pass with additional elements. This was at a time the high pass filters were frowned upon by a good portion of players because they didn't understand how they could help the low end. My have things changed!

 

[kleinenenten]

I have 2 FDecks. No complaints here. I can see a huge difference in cone excursion. I use them as a protection method against excessive lows damaging my speakers. I play heavy metal (in other words - loud, low, and distorted) and this allows me to keep my audible lows and reduce subsonic lows that my amp can't reproduce anyway, which actually allows my amp to be louder at volume and clearer with less mud. I also find that it's handy on the FDeck to use the volume knob as a master volume of sorts. I can use my loudest amp, not mess with any of its finicky controls at volume, and use the FDeck's volume control (when placed in the FX loop) as a master volume. It's a fantastic piece of gear, and one I won't go without these days.

 

[packhowitzer]

I have essentially three HPFs and I won't play without one these days. my HPF pedals are the FDeck HPF-3 and the Broughton HPF/LPF. They are both excellent. This might be just some sort of unconscious bias on my part, but I think that I perceive that the FDeck is slightly more pleasing to my ears. BUT the Broughton also has an LPF and the form factor and overall construction is a better fit for my pedal board. I literally use each of them at about a 50/50 split. I also have the two that are built into my Mesa TT-800 amp. When I'm playing through it, I don't need the FDeck or the Broughton.

With any of these HPFs, I can only estimate where I have it set - which I think is somewhere between 50 and 60 Hz. With any of them engaged, my sound is tighter and punchier and generally more pleasing to my ears -without being squished by a compressor. It's the natural sound of my bass and amp (just with an extra measure of control over the tendency to get boomy on certain stages). Incidentally, I don't use an HPF in my signal chain when recording, but I do use an HPF in software - not just on the bass, but on any instrument with low frequencies (keys, kick drum) as well as on the overall mix as needed.

hope that helps.

 

[Bisounourse]

I have and use the Fdeck (for DB duties) and the Vong HPF/LPF. Can't recomend both enough.

VONG-Filterung – Schalltechnik_04

 

[Medicine Man]

I use the Broughton Hpf/Lpf combo with much success. All hail the talkbass hivemind.

 

[BobDeRosa]

The Fishman Platinum Stage preamp/DI comes with an HPF. It's designed more for acoustic instruments but also works with electric.

 

[Steveshaking]

Other pedal based options come from Radial e.g. the bassbone preamps.

 

[two fingers]

I own the Broughton Always On. It's a tiny unit. Works perfectly. Built like a little tank. Stays out of the way.

 

[RobD_BritBass]

I have a teh 21 Q strip which has both a hpf and lpf (not variable), great to use after octave pedals etc, lets me push a 1x10 cab that little bit harder without it struggling so definitely helps keep my super portable setup useable rather than having to bring bigger stuff.

 

[Snaxster]

High Pass Filter (HPF) and Low Pass Filter (LPF) Mega Thread

 

[Jaco who?]

High Pass Filter (HPF) and Low Pass Filter (LPF) Mega Thread

Haha. Snaxter, I like the way you think.