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So what is next? (music)
- Thread starter Yngwie 4String
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I work with a guy who never shuts up about this abhorrently dull, lazy and shoddy band. Yuck.
i'd like to add that my band is awesome and groundbreaking in all forms and manners.
at the very least, we will change your life.
+1, I love how you girls infuse all those different elements together.. plus I have a crush on your drummer.. and your trumpet player.. and your.. oh, ok.. the whole Zili pride then..
I think to push things forward, what about a "boy band", 5 guys, they can all sing really well, 4 of them play ukeleles and they're REALLY good...uke solo's out the ying-yang, the 5th guy plays a Jackson with a locking tremelo but just rhythm. The music style is just regular "Back Street Boys' style.
The current state of affairs in the record industry is only going to make it harder for a radically different sound to emerge from the mainstream ranks. With illegal downloading cutting into profits, the prevailing attitude is to play it safe when signing new bands.
That's not to say that there isn't great stuff out there. I really dig Hella which, as their name would imply, are a band from my neck of the woods. But I'm afraid they are too different to ever garner major exposure.
Also, remember that many groundbreaking albums came from established artists that had the luxury of experimentation. The Beatles couldn't have started with Revolver. Likewise with Angel Dust from Faith No More or Kid A by Radiohead. And sometimes being an established artist isn't enough to give you the right to try something new. After all, Wilco's best album (Yankee Hotel Foxtrot) was deemed unmarketable by their label who dropped them.
But as many have already posted, there is no shortage of musicians trying something new. You just have to do a little more legwork to find them because there's less and less chance of it ending up on the radio in this day and age.
That's not to say that there isn't great stuff out there. I really dig Hella which, as their name would imply, are a band from my neck of the woods. But I'm afraid they are too different to ever garner major exposure.
Also, remember that many groundbreaking albums came from established artists that had the luxury of experimentation. The Beatles couldn't have started with Revolver. Likewise with Angel Dust from Faith No More or Kid A by Radiohead. And sometimes being an established artist isn't enough to give you the right to try something new. After all, Wilco's best album (Yankee Hotel Foxtrot) was deemed unmarketable by their label who dropped them.
But as many have already posted, there is no shortage of musicians trying something new. You just have to do a little more legwork to find them because there's less and less chance of it ending up on the radio in this day and age.
WARNING--this isn't nirvana's huge commercial success envelope pushing, this is 4 ton bulldozer envelope pushing, these bands won't be on MTV
Ron Jarzombek
Spastic Ink
Blotted Science
Ron Jarzombek
Spastic Ink
Blotted Science
I've seen several people list The Mars Volta as a groundbreaking band so I have to ask: Am I the only one who liked At The Drive-In better?
Which is not to say that I hate TMV, but I do have to be in the right mood to listen to them. It doesn't help that their show opening up for RHCP had some of the worst sound I've ever heard. Now clearly large arenas is not the right venue for such a heavily layered band, but even given that it was an awful show from them.
Which is not to say that I hate TMV, but I do have to be in the right mood to listen to them. It doesn't help that their show opening up for RHCP had some of the worst sound I've ever heard. Now clearly large arenas is not the right venue for such a heavily layered band, but even given that it was an awful show from them.
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When pushing the envelope means overproduced, overblown, and underplayed, I want no part of it.
You can take 3 excellent musicians and come out with Rush or something that sounds like The White Stripes.
Psychotropic interludes into heavy drug use and degredant behavior, isn't music to me, but the bands of today call it "Ground Breaking"
Give me Rush, Musicianship that isn't hard to listen to, lyrics that make sense, and songs with a hook, not just mindless improvisational overplay. Or nonmusical people who pretend to play because they "LOOK" the part.
You can take 3 excellent musicians and come out with Rush or something that sounds like The White Stripes.
Psychotropic interludes into heavy drug use and degredant behavior, isn't music to me, but the bands of today call it "Ground Breaking"
Give me Rush, Musicianship that isn't hard to listen to, lyrics that make sense, and songs with a hook, not just mindless improvisational overplay. Or nonmusical people who pretend to play because they "LOOK" the part.
I don't like Mars Volta. I did like At The Drive In, though strange you mention bad sound while TMV opened up for RHCP. I felt that ATDI suffered bad sound when I saw them open up for RATM back in 99'.
This post uses too many abbreviations.
*DING* Winner!
I agree. However, as long as record companies keep jamming the same crap down the throats of the unwitting public, and they keep swallowing, commerical radio going to remain stagnant.
You don't even need 3 for the White Stripes
There certainly are fantastic musicians out there making new and different music every day. If you search for it, you will find it...and it won't be on commercial radio.
For all the talk about bands being original, the fact remains that to some degree, every band is a product of their influences. In fact, I had this conversation with a friend, stating that I could divine the major influences of pretty much any band he named.
We looked them up later, but I was pretty spot on for 9 of the 10, with Alice In Chains being one that stumped me. (I still couldn't tell you their influences even after a modicum of research)
Point being, the idea of being totally original or new is a bit misleading. Every band stands on the shoulders of giants to some extent. But it is worth noting that pretty much every artist or group that I really dig have big ears and draw from a lot of disparate influences.
We looked them up later, but I was pretty spot on for 9 of the 10, with Alice In Chains being one that stumped me. (I still couldn't tell you their influences even after a modicum of research)
Point being, the idea of being totally original or new is a bit misleading. Every band stands on the shoulders of giants to some extent. But it is worth noting that pretty much every artist or group that I really dig have big ears and draw from a lot of disparate influences.
Here's a few bands from Milwaukee and the surrounding area that i think are pushing musical envelopes.
This Specific Dream - Link Removed
Masonry - Link Removed
Mahogany Throttle - Link Removed
Asrava - Link Removed
Concentric - Link Removed
Things Falling Apart - Link Removed
vonFrickle - Link Removed
enjoy the tunes!!!
-James
This Specific Dream - Link Removed
Masonry - Link Removed
Mahogany Throttle - Link Removed
Asrava - Link Removed
Concentric - Link Removed
Things Falling Apart - Link Removed
vonFrickle - Link Removed
enjoy the tunes!!!
-James
