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Something we can all be outraged about together.

#343
Tarrbot said:
The irony here is that you used subjective statements and I did too.

The difference is that I gave both sides the crappy looking, unhealthy looking moniker.

You want to beef (pun intended) on a thread that has nothing to do with the topic, please do so elsewhere.
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I gave the same subjective statements stating that there are unhealthy vegans as well. I guess when you decide to speak "off topic" it's ok but when I do it then you choose to tell me to go elsewhere. Last time I checked, moderators decide who comes and goes. I question your ability to police threads, particularly when you are not a supporting member of our community.
 
#344
I would make the argument that the reason meat eaters have more health issues is because for the most part meat eaters work real jobs and have family's which causes wear and tear on the body and stress. Opposed to the average vegan that usually is going to phish shows with buddies well into their fifties and usually either work at non profit telemarketing organizations or making signs at trader joes. I hope this comment wasn't offensive.
 
#349
GK Growl said:
I gave the same subjective statements stating that there are unhealthy vegans as well. I guess when you decide to speak "off topic" it's ok but when I do it then you choose to tell me to go elsewhere. Last time I checked, moderators decide who comes and goes. I question your ability to police threads, particularly when you are not a supporting member of our community.
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I wasn't policing the thread. As you say, I have no authority here so in auster terms, how can I police the thread?

I simply asked you to take you beef elsewhere as its seems to be quite rotted.

Cheers. ;)
 
#350
Relic said:
So let's rehash this: some people eat meat, some dont, some on each team think each other are ridiculous because of the food choices and continue to argue the pros and cons of each other's choices.
Those who eat meat of course are the moral equivalent of those who would suffocate a cat for perverse pleasure, and those who don't are sickly semi-humans waiting to waste away and die of vitamin X13/Z*X00 deficiency for being so stoooopit.
Got it.

I blame this all on Ziltoid incidentally.
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:atoz:
 
#351
Tarrbot said:
The vegan/PETA mantra can be taken out of this topic now. You should have just started another topic on veganism.

Now where is my "I eat vegans" t-shirt?
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This was one of your first nuggets of wisdom early on in this thread (way before I even showed up) that clearly shows you attempting to bully people about what can or can't be talked about. Saying someone "should" do something sounds very much like policing to me. And then you end it with a statement designed to get an emotional response from people. How about this....lay off the McDonald's dollar menu for awhile and you can save up that $20 to become a basic supporting member of this community. Then you may be able to get that moderator job that you are obviously qualified for.
 
#353
Guys if you want "the science" to back up any given argument, rest assured you can find it. There are studies to refute studies that support other studies... you get the idea.

Ultimately you just gotta go with what works. An anecdotal piece of meaty food for thought here... A few years ago I was told that I had to do something about my weight or face some pretty dire consequences (death, for example). A simple diet change did the trick and I am now over a hundred pounds lighter. Blood pressure, cholesterol, triglycerides, the works are all exemplary... I could go on ad nauseum.

Was it veggies that did it? Nope. My diet is MAJORITY meat-based protein with veggies giving me supplemental nutrients. So after years of battling a weight problem and trying every conceivable diet/health plan known to man (including the vegetarian route) it was a protein based diet that finally whipped it and continues to keep me healthy, so I get a good laugh when I hear about how unhealthy it is to eat meat.

What I am getting at is this: is it just POSSIBLE that there is no one size fits all approach to dietary health? Am I supposed to believe that all of the nearly seven BILLION people on the planet are going to have the exact same reaction to the exact same diet?? Or is it maybe more likely that there's going to be some variation in requirements in there somewhere? Come on, peoples... We're a very complex organism with many MANY subtle differences, so "different strokes for different folks" is not just some tired cliché when it comes to taking care of ourselves... It's damn near the biological IMPERATIVE.

So vegans... Stop being so judgmental and sanctimonious with the carnivores! Leave em alone and keep working on your vegan mind powers (man I hope someone gets the reference) Carnivores... Leave the vegans alone and concentrate your ire on people that throw A1 sauce on a perfectly cooked and seasoned Porterhouse good GOD what is wrong with those people?!? I submit to you THEY are the villains here!

... is there any chance at this point of returning to how lame the animal torturers are? That seemed to be something everyone agreed on...
 
#354
Saxn said:
Guys if you want "the science" to back up any given argument, rest assured you can find it. There are studies to refute studies that support other studies... you get the idea.

Ultimately you just gotta go with what works. An anecdotal piece of meaty food for thought here... A few years ago I was told that I had to do something about my weight or face some pretty dire consequences (death, for example). A simple diet change did the trick and I am now over a hundred pounds lighter. Blood pressure, cholesterol, triglycerides, the works are all exemplary... I could go on ad nauseum.

Was it veggies that did it? Nope. My diet is MAJORITY meat-based protein with veggies giving me supplemental nutrients. So after years of battling a weight problem and trying every conceivable diet/health plan known to man (including the vegetarian route) it was a protein based diet that finally whipped it and continues to keep me healthy, so I get a good laugh when I hear about how unhealthy it is to eat meat.

What I am getting at is this: is it just POSSIBLE that there is no one size fits all approach to dietary health? Am I supposed to believe that all of the nearly seven BILLION people on the planet are going to have the exact same reaction to the exact same diet?? Or is it maybe more likely that there's going to be some variation in requirements in there somewhere? Come on, peoples... We're a very complex organism with many MANY subtle differences, so "different strokes for different folks" is not just some tired cliché when it comes to taking care of ourselves... It's damn near the biological IMPERATIVE.

So vegans... Stop being so judgmental and sanctimonious with the carnivores! Leave em alone and keep working on your vegan mind powers (man I hope someone gets the reference) Carnivores... Leave the vegans alone and concentrate your ire on people that throw A1 sauce on a perfectly cooked and seasoned Porterhouse good GOD what is wrong with those people?!? I submit to you THEY are the villains here!

... is there any chance at this point of returning to how lame the animal torturers are? That seemed to be something everyone agreed on...
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But you're missing the point. The point of arguing about it is to play for your team, you know, to beat down those other people. If you can prove a vegan wrong through science, BAM you win the interwebz argument and are a carnivorous hero. Vice versa also hold true when you get the vegan who's all up in your face with their preaching..
What fun would it be if we all just sort of just let it go and allowed folks to eat what they want/??? Sheesh. No fun in that, we HAVE to criticize and judge, it makes us feel cool.

/sarcasm

(not intended to necessarily attack anyone here, just sick of the back and forth arguing about it....)
 
#355
Relic said:
But you're missing the point. The point of arguing about it is to play for your team, you know, to beat down those other people. If you can prove a vegan wrong through science, BAM you win the interwebz argument and are a carnivorous hero. Vice versa also hold true when you get the vegan who's all up in your face with their preaching..
What fun would it be if we all just sort of just let it go and allowed folks to eat what they want/??? Sheesh. No fun in that, we HAVE to criticize and judge, it makes us feel cool.

/sarcasm

(not intended to necessarily attack anyone here, just sick of the back and forth arguing about it....)
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You knows... I forgot where I was for a second! Thanks for bringing me back!

Okay so what's the score?
 

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