Source Audio Zio Bass Preamp

[gillento]

I played the Capo for approx. 6 months. It sounds great and its analog "cab sim" (more of a LPF, I think) is the "Best" analog cab sim/LPF to MY ears.
It shines when slightly overdriven and more overdriven.
To me its sound has nothing to do with the ZIO.

 

[Johno Dunn]

I played the Capo for approx. 6 months. It sounds great and its analog "cab sim" (more of a LPF, I think) is the "Best" analog cab sim/LPF to MY ears.
It shines when slightly overdriven and more overdriven.
To me its sound has nothing to do with the ZIO.

Do you have both? Only asking because I’ve never played through a Capo.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

I have never played "Multiple Preamp – DI – Saturator – FX Loop" (CAPO) but it looks great and has a clean DI and a post EQ/EFX DI, too.

In my situation, it's overkill @ $550 (Fat Bass Tone) and so I find the ZIO meets my needs and exceeds expectations in my application. My amp has a post-EQ/EFX loop DI so I'm covered there.

If additional routing is ever required. The H90 is crazy well equipped in that area. I just have to bite the bullet and get into that community college course to be able to get it to do everything it can do!

 

[gillento]

Do you have both? Only asking because I’ve never played through a Capo.

No, I don't have it anymore. I sold it because my musical needs changed and I can't justify keeping such an expensive piece of gear and not play it regularly.

 

[gillento]

The ZIO is much cleaner than the Capo (effected DI and main out)

 

[Derek Williams]

I played the Capo for approx. 6 months. It sounds great and its analog "cab sim" (more of a LPF, I think) is the "Best" analog cab sim/LPF to MY ears.
It shines when slightly overdriven and more overdriven.
To me its sound has nothing to do with the ZIO.

I have both and I agree with this. ZIO is easier to use as a clean preamp, and it's controls work better for me than a 3 band EQ. I only use the Capo and not my ZIO at the moment, only because the new onboard preamp I have on my bass does such a great job (Underhill dual filter). I'm not using the Capo as always on, it's only for when I want some drive.

So both are great, but if I had to choose one I'd probably keep the ZIO. Better value and easier controls for clean. I'm glad I don't have to just choose one though

 

[lomo]

My sense is that most folks would want their own favorite style of cab sim?

.....or, like me, neither want nor use a cab sim and certainly don't want to pay for one. If this box was bigger and pricier I'd have passed it by.

 

[Zbysek]

I prefer variable HPF (and LPF) over cab sim...

 

[lomo]

I prefer variable HPF (and LPF) over cab sim...

I agree......only use an HPF....and ironically, the Zio does include a form of HPF anyway.

 

[Zbysek]

I agree......only use an HPF....and ironically, the Zio does include a form of HPF anyway.

Exactly. I don't see the point in having both variable HPF and cab simulation in one device...

 

[Johno Dunn]

I have both and I agree with this. ZIO is easier to use as a clean preamp, and it's controls work better for me than a 3 band EQ. I only use the Capo and not my ZIO at the moment, only because the new onboard preamp I have on my bass does such a great job (Underhill dual filter). I'm not using the Capo as always on, it's only for when I want some drive.

So both are great, but if I had to choose one I'd probably keep the ZIO. Better value and easier controls for clean. I'm glad I don't have to just choose one though

I have an Underhill in my bass as well, and got the Zio because of that. I dial my mids in surgically with the Underhill, and let Zio do the rest!

I agree......only use an HPF....and ironically, the Zio does include a form of HPF anyway.

I also prefer a HPF to a cab sim. It allows me more control.

 

[_Tay_]

After watching the recent Source Audio video with the ZIO using the Headphone Out to interface i decided to give it a go into another amp and use both Outputs.

So right now im going out the ZIO Output jack to my Fender Rumble 500 Return FX and out the ZIO Headphone Out to a little Eden Nemesis 8" amp. So 4 x 10" speakers and one 8" speaker. Sounds really cool. Another cool feature from the ZIO!

 

[Johno Dunn]

After watching the recent Source Audio video with the ZIO using the Headphone Out to interface i decided to give it a go into another amp and use both Outputs.

So right now im going out the ZIO Output jack to my Fender Rumble 500 Return FX and out the ZIO Headphone Out to a little Eden Nemesis 8" amp. So 4 x 10" speakers and one 8" speaker. Sounds really cool. Another cool feature from the ZIO!

Can you post a link to the video?

 

[_Tay_]

Can you post a link to the video?

 

[Johno Dunn]

Thanks! What a great idea!

 

[gillento]

I am not sure if I get the idea behind this video.
Why didn't he use the DI out instead of the headphone out?

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

I am not sure if I get the idea behind this video.
Why didn't he use the DI out instead of the headphone out?

I had considered that the TRS headphone output COULD split to stereo Delay/Reverb or some modulation devices for L/R stereo applications or Wet/Dry EFX applications.

 

[Johno Dunn]

I am not sure if I get the idea behind this video.
Why didn't he use the DI out instead of the headphone out?

Great question.

 

[_Tay_]

It's clearly showing the ZIO is capable of 3 signal outputs. Output, Heaphone Out + DI. That's why the DI wasn't used.

 

[gillento]

It's clearly showing the ZIO is capable of 3 signal outputs. Output, Heaphone Out + DI. That's why the DI wasn't used.

OK
But this video shows a classic studio situation: DI + miked cab.
Why use the headphone out?