speakOn amp cables

[S-Bigbottom]

and pre tinned.. been having issues with cutting out

So I checked it out and it wasn’t inserted all the way View attachment 7478453

I hope you cut it all, re-striped it and put it together properly with no solder. Crush them wires in.

 

[Mike Caldwell]

and pre tinned.. been having issues with cutting out

So I checked it out and it wasn’t inserted all the way View attachment 7478453

Is that a legit Speakon, the screws don't look right. Can you post a picture of the rest of the connector?

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

I hope you cut it all, re-striped it and put it together properly with no solder. Crush them wires in.

Of course!

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

Is that a legit Speakon, the screws don't look right. Can you post a picture of the rest of the connector?

It's what came with my new GK neo 2X12 bass cab when I bought it at my local music store new

It's the 4 pole bi amp cable

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

Tinning the wires on pressure screw connections will cause them to loosen up as the solder cold flows. That’s why it pulled out (along with the strain relief missing the jacket and being ineffective.

This is a well known issue that IMO only the inexperienced or educated by YouTube videos still use.

The cable in the photo is also incorrectly stripped and prepped, jacket is stripped back WAY too far.

Lol that's how the cable was when I bought my cabs brand new at the time!

 

[agedhorse]

Lol that's how the cable was when I bought my cabs brand new at the time!

Makes me suspect that it's was legit, properly assembled cable then.

 

[Redbrangus]

OEM, but jobbed out to a subcontractor, I suspect.

 

[Pep]

I am sure there are poor knock-off, but all the cables we have purchased from MonoPrice are excellent and well made with no problems, and a fraction of the price you might pay for Speakon Cables. My neighbor has been running his PA company for years using MonoPrice cables. They are the actual maker of the cables and hardware and have been doing this for many years and probably OEM for other companies . Sorry if this sounds like a commercial (I'm not affiliated!) I just want people to know that there are cost effective alternatives that are well made.

1/4" plugs and jacks? As an engineer, when I think of the extremely tiny bit of contact area between the round plug touching the flat connector and us pushing many Watts through them, I cringe. If you want to use 1/4" jacks at least use the PureTone ones with double the contacts.

We’ve been down the MonoPrice road before.

I really don’t care who or where a speaker cable is made. If has anything other than Neutrik SpeakOn connectors on it, it won’t be used with any of my gear.
Going with genuine Neutrik SpeakOn connectors is a small price to pay to insure everything works correctly and doesn’t end up getting damaged. The repair cost is considerably more than the upfront cost of genuine Neutrik SpeakOns.
Not just my honest opinion, it’s the truth.
Compare repair cost versus genuine Neutrik.
It’s a no-brainer.

 

[agedhorse]

OEM, but jobbed out to a subcontractor, I suspect.

It would have to be a real hack of a subcontract manufacturer.

 

[Mike Caldwell]

It's what came with my new GK neo 2X12 bass cab when I bought it at my local music store new

It's the 4 pole bi amp cable

Post a pic of the rest of the connector.

 

[Pep]

PS: You can build your own SpeakOn cables for less than the MonoPrice alternatives and still use genuine Neutrik SpeakerOn connectors. 12ga wire is overkill. 14ga is plenty.

I built (2) 6ft 12ga SpeakOn cables using Genuine Neutrik Connectors including tax and shipping for $42.68. That includes shrink wrap where the wire enters the connectors.

MonoPrice:
(2) 6ft 12ga SpeakOn cables with generic connectors (non-Neutrik) with tax and free shipping costs $53.17.

Where’s the savings?

PSS: Also remember that cables are guaranteed against failure, not against damage to your gear. That kinda sheds a whole new light on it.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

It would have to be a real hack of a subcontract manufacturer.

Post a pic of the rest of the connector.

OEM, but jobbed out to a subcontractor, I suspect.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

Plus it was tinned on both ends

Of 2 cables

 

[Mike Caldwell]

Plus it was tinned on both ends

Of 2 cables

Sorry that is a knock off connector and actually a knock off version I have not seen before with that style locking collar!

Best bet would be cut them off the cable and replace with a couple Neutrik Speakons, If you cabinets don't have combo connectors on them
the new versions are fine.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

Sorry that is a knock off connector and actually a knock off version I have not seen before with that style locking collar!

Best bet would be cut them off the cable and replace with a couple Neutrik Speakons, If you cabinets don't have combo connectors on them
the new versions are fine.

I know it's not neutrik

I can tell lol

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

Sorry that is a knock off connector and actually a knock off version I have not seen before with that style locking collar!

Best bet would be cut them off the cable and replace with a couple Neutrik Speakons, If you cabinets don't have combo connectors on them
the new versions are fine.

Yeah the only problem is using it with my Peavey tour 700

At full lock it doesn't work until I move
It slightly

I wonder if it's an NL2 on the amp
But my traynor TC412, GK neo 2x12 stack, and swr go light take the speak on fine

 

[agedhorse]

It can’t be an NL2 on your amp, the NL4 plug won’t even fit.

 

[Pep]

Yeah the only problem is using it with my Peavey tour 700

At full lock it doesn't work until I move
It slightly

I would be willing to bet a genuine Neutrik SpeakOn would work and make a solid connection. So many manufacturers try to “get by” with cheap connectors. I would junk those connectors and replace them with Neutriks.
Or you could do like me and build your own cables.

PS: Tinning the ends means absolutely nothing if it’s connected to a junk connector.

 

[agedhorse]

I would be willing to bet a genuine Neutrik SpeakOn would work and make a solid connection. So many manufacturers try to “get by” with cheap connectors. I would junk those connectors and replace them with Neutriks.
Or you could do like me and build your own cables.

PS: Tinning the ends means absolutely nothing if it’s connected to a junk connector.

Tinning the ends is not recommended regardless of the connector. The solder cold flows under pressure and the connection loosens. No quality professional cable house tins the wires on a binding screw pressure connection, and it's warned against by Neutrik.

 

[fig]

Yeah the only problem is using it with my Peavey tour 700

At full lock it doesn't work until I move
It slightly

I wonder if it's an NL2 on the amp

It's an NL2. My standby amp is a Tour 700. I just pulled it out, there's only 2 electrical contacts inside the each of the two Neutrik connectors on the back of amp. Also, I have the full schematics for the amp, which includes parts placement on the circuit boards, and a Bill of Materials (listing of each and every cap, resistor, jack, etc). The Bill of Materials lists those two Speakon connectors as "2 Pole" (items J6 and J7).:



The speaker cables I made about 20 years ago for this amp are also NL2's. I've never had an issue with an intermittent connection. I also use those cables for the Subway D800+ (main amp).