what makes one better than the other?
and... if you were gonna mod one, which one would it be?
or MIJ?
and... if you were gonna mod one, which one would it be?
or MIJ?
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Squire P vs MIM P
- Thread starter derekdecarlo
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I was going to post the same thread
I'm going to buy a P bass and I hesitate between both... is the price difference between both worth ? I've read several times that the new CV squiers are as good or better than MIM fender.. is it really true ?
I was going to post the same thread
I'm going to buy a P bass and I hesitate between both... is the price difference between both worth ? I've read several times that the new CV squiers are as good or better than MIM fender.. is it really true ?
You can find gems, or turds in both lines. I have two Squier VM series basses, a Tele and the P bass. The VM P-bass is well worth the money if you find a good one off the shelf - and even better if you find one used. With a proper setup and a good set of strings it becomes a very serviceable bass.
And as far is MIJ goes, the overall opinion is that MIJ is better than both Squier and MIM by a lot. I haven't ever played MIJ though.
And as far is MIJ goes, the overall opinion is that MIJ is better than both Squier and MIM by a lot. I haven't ever played MIJ though.
Not a lot of exprience here, but I have yet to play a MIM P that wasn't cheaply made, and sounded weak. The few Squires I played sounded better, but again cheaply made. I personally would not buy either planning on upgrading them. Just buy a nicer bass to start with.
Cripes... here we go! Well I've got a MIJ Squier P Silver Series and a MIM P 2002.
They are both very good basses. My son has the squier now and this summer I'm gigging my P instead of my Stingray. Of course there are turds in every pile. Find the one that does it for you.
They are both very good basses. My son has the squier now and this summer I'm gigging my P instead of my Stingray. Of course there are turds in every pile. Find the one that does it for you.
Personally, I don't intend to buy it planning on upgrading.
I've never had a P bass and I'd like a "cheap" one to try and see if this is what I'm looking for (I'm rather a J bass player now but I think the P bass could better fit the music I play).
You can get a used Fender P on eBay for the same price as a new Squier. Just sayin...
The best thing to do is find a music shop that has both the Fender P and Squier P, and try for yourself. Guitar Centers aren't good for much, but most of them will have a wall full of Fenders and Squiers that you can compare.
As for upgrading: some people say you should just buy a "better" bass, but "better" is always a subjective thing. Personally, I think those people are just scared you might create something better than the bass they spent a mint on...
...so if you have a cheap bass that's decent quality and an idea where you're going with the upgrades, then I say go for it.
That said, you need to think out the idea first. You don't want to put $600 of upgrades into a $200 bass; that IS a waste at that point. Also, you really do need an instrument of reasonable quality to start with, which is why it's important to try before you buy; there are good Squiers, and bad Fenders. No amount of upgrading will help a truly bad instrument.
Just my rambling early morning thoughts, anyway...
The best thing to do is find a music shop that has both the Fender P and Squier P, and try for yourself. Guitar Centers aren't good for much, but most of them will have a wall full of Fenders and Squiers that you can compare.
As for upgrading: some people say you should just buy a "better" bass, but "better" is always a subjective thing. Personally, I think those people are just scared you might create something better than the bass they spent a mint on...
...so if you have a cheap bass that's decent quality and an idea where you're going with the upgrades, then I say go for it.That said, you need to think out the idea first. You don't want to put $600 of upgrades into a $200 bass; that IS a waste at that point. Also, you really do need an instrument of reasonable quality to start with, which is why it's important to try before you buy; there are good Squiers, and bad Fenders. No amount of upgrading will help a truly bad instrument.
Just my rambling early morning thoughts, anyway...
I've never had an MIM P that sounded weak or felt cheap; I have owned and suffered with two early 70's Ps that were flat-out horrible. It's time to get past this MIM, MIJ, MIA categorization. The same things were said of post and pre-CBS models in the late sixties when I started playing. Fenders are Fenders--most are good, some aren't. Try them first, as most TBers here say.
I've owned and gigged regularly with:
VM Squier P Bass
CIJ Jazz Bass
MIM P and J Basses
And in my experience, the one that I go back to over and over would be the VM Squier P Bass. It's such a quality instrument for the money. It plays and sounds better than any MIM Standard that I've ever come across.
VM Squier P Bass
CIJ Jazz Bass
MIM P and J Basses
And in my experience, the one that I go back to over and over would be the VM Squier P Bass. It's such a quality instrument for the money. It plays and sounds better than any MIM Standard that I've ever come across.
QFT.
I picked one up for $180 used. Like I said - setup and strings, gigable bass all day - all night. If you are looking for a cheap P-bass, just go play a few of these. I was shocked at how solid of an aex the thing is. The PUP will get you by just fine as well.
I've gigged mine too.
Why everybody always advise people to buy "something nicer" ?
If I decide to put 300-500 bucks in a bass, I don't intend to buy something nicer that will costs $ 1000-2000...
I know a MIA P bass will certainly sound and feel better than a squier or a MIM, but I don't want and I can't afford of $1200 bass now...
If I had the money, I'd buy a rick 4003, a MIA p-bass and I wouldn't post here and read people's answers.
IMO/IME their are more shoddy basses when you get into the MIM and Squire lines than with the MIA's.
If I were into modding I'd go SX (search: essex).
IMHO they're comparable to Squier and after tweaking, modding and a pro setup, comparable to MIM. However, resale is pretty much nil since they're so inexpensive, regardless of what you put into it in mods.
FWIW, I've owned 3 MIM (Jazz and 2 P Specials), 1 Squier (VM P) and 2 SX's (PJ and Jazz 5).
They were pretty even across the board, but I slightly modded each one differently (pickups, hipshot D tuner, Gotoh bridge). They were all giggable instruments.
The only one I have now is one of the P Specials.
IMHO they're comparable to Squier and after tweaking, modding and a pro setup, comparable to MIM. However, resale is pretty much nil since they're so inexpensive, regardless of what you put into it in mods.
FWIW, I've owned 3 MIM (Jazz and 2 P Specials), 1 Squier (VM P) and 2 SX's (PJ and Jazz 5).
They were pretty even across the board, but I slightly modded each one differently (pickups, hipshot D tuner, Gotoh bridge). They were all giggable instruments.
The only one I have now is one of the P Specials.
S-Q-U-I-E-R not Squire.
Still can't believe how many people get this wrong even though it's written on the headstock. Now back to the thread.
yes, I don't understand either why so many people spell it "squire"...
people don't write "fendre" or "fedner", so why "squire"
There seems to be a thread on this same topic (Squier vs. Fender) every few weeks. I hate to say it, but you should search some of those topics and see the OVERWHELMING amount of information both pro and con about these two brands.
My opinion: I chose a new Squier VM Jazz over a used Fender MIM Jazz. The VM Jazz looked better, played better, sounded better, and had a better "vibe" to it. There is truth to what many say about Squier quality control... however I find that this truth extends to Fender as well. One final truth- A Fender will almost certainly have a higher resale value than a Squier (if both instruments are of comparable condition and features). I don't plan on selling mine, so it isn't an issue. If you rotate your stock often it may be.
My opinion: I chose a new Squier VM Jazz over a used Fender MIM Jazz. The VM Jazz looked better, played better, sounded better, and had a better "vibe" to it. There is truth to what many say about Squier quality control... however I find that this truth extends to Fender as well. One final truth- A Fender will almost certainly have a higher resale value than a Squier (if both instruments are of comparable condition and features). I don't plan on selling mine, so it isn't an issue. If you rotate your stock often it may be.
To me it's not that one is better than the other.
The MIMs are just not as exciting as the Squiers CV and VM.
My pick is the CV 50s over any other Squier or MIM.
I love the tone that bass has.
The CV60s is also very nice, very mellow and sweet voiced, yet a clarity sound.
And the VM Tele is amazing for it's price, but you have to like that awesome dark mudbucker sound.
There is a Standard MIM P at my local store that I always take to test out amps or effect pedals. It's a great reference when it come to tone. But in my opinion more dull compared to CV and VM Squiers.
Because that's the correct spelling when you don't mean the brand name.
Squire means "schildwacht"
, aid or assistant to a knight, it's from medieval times. De middeleeuwen.Moins que te est francophone, ne regarde pas la traduction en néerlandais.
