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Steinberger Megathread

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As some of you may know, my main player is a Steinberger XL2, and for me at least it's about the best bass out there. I have quite a few other instruments in my collection, so I have a pretty good reference. I'm on my second, which I got about 2 years ago. It's a low 4k S/N which places it mid 86. It came from the original owner and had been to Peekamoose for new frets and electronics before I got it. My first XL2 was purchased new in 85 and sold a few years later after some difficulties in my life made me think it was a good idea, a decision I regretted until I purchased my current one.

My XL has had two minor mods: new string jaws in the bridge (to be fitted next string change) and a new version of the Steinberger 'Boomerang' that replaces the pivot plate. The boomerang was designed by Ned for his cello's and basses. Andy Y of Steinbergerworld got Ned to make a version that screws directly into the original fitting. The difference in comfort and ergonomics for me was great. This is by far the most comfortable instrument I've ever played.

When I first saw the XL's in ads in the 80's, I knew I would get one. It appealed to the engineer in me as an intelligent piece of design, and the only fundamental redesign of the bass since Leo. When I got it in my hands, I was doubly sure I'd made the right decision; it just felt like home.

The things I like about my Steinie include
- the balance and ergonomics.
- I like how it sounds, and can get quite a bit of variation from it. Tone preferences are very personal though and seems to be love it or hate it with this bass
- I think it looks cool in a 'form follows function, minimalist aesthetic' kinda way.
- headless design - I don't need no steeenkin flipper on the end of my neck
- stiff monocoque structure allows even note response along the neck, no deadspots at all, complete immunity to weather and it stays in tune between string changes.
- fast string changes with no tools. Strings seem to sound consistent for ages, longer than enything else I own except the Status.
- active, friendly fan base and support, mostly because of Andy Y's great work.

What I don't like
- starting to get expensive, and I should have bought a second one a while back when I bought the current one.
- morons who make comments like 'hey man, the 80's called and they want their bass back'. Luckily it's very strong and quite a bit of heft, so it's very useful as a weapon. The smooth design means the blood and bone fragments just wipe off.

I also have two Hohner maple XL2 style basses; a B2ADB and a B2V. The B2V is pictured below. The guy who owned it before me machined a new headpiece out of brass as well as new string jaws. It'll likely get some QTuners or DM X2N7's later. The B2ADB is on loan, so no pics. It's stock with Lawrence EB50 pickups. When it comes back I'm going to experiment with pickup switching and maybe build a new pre for it. Experience with the othe licenced clones seems a bit more spotty, but I have no direct personal experience of them.

I like both of them and think that all round the Hohners and Spirits are pretty good. My one gripe is with the ergonomics because of the lack of pivot plate. I'll get another boomerang for one and use the original pivot plate on the other.

I know there are other fans out there, so please chime in with your basses, experiences and stories about all of Ned's designs.

Excose the poor camerawork, and the floor that isn't up to Nino standards. The knobs were in the drill press when I took the photos getting the hole size increased a snick to fit the shaft.
 

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Here's my VERY early L2 from Brooklyn. Previous owner: Dee Murray(RIP), bassist for Elton John during the 70s and 80s. This bass was used on the "Too Low For Zero" album, and the single "I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues". Came with the original strap and gigbag.
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80's called. Heh. Good one.

My first real bass was an XM2 that I played for 15 years. Then I bought an SR5 and the funniest thing happened. I had been playing for a long time, but had no idea how to change strings let alone tweak a truss rod.

If I wasn't sure that Gibson would screw it up, I wish they would reintroduce the XL2. I saw a pristine XL2A-DB a few years ago on ebay and should have jumped on it.
 
Here's my VERY early L2 from Brooklyn. Previous owner: Dee Murray(RIP), bassist for Elton John during the 70s and 80s. This bass was used on the "Too Low For Zero" album, and the single "I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues". Came with the original strap and gigbag.
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That's a great bass, and I love that it has such a history.
Mine also came with the gigbag and strap.
If I wasn't sure that Gibson would screw it up, I wish they would reintroduce the XL2.
I feel Gibson really dropped the ball on this one as it could have been a stellar alternative / high tech line for their catalogue. Even if the composites were too difficult to do in house they could have farmed it out to a specialist, as apparently Status does.
 
Of all seven of my basses, this is the one I would most likely sell last:

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I bought it new in 1988, and it has been without a doubt the most trouble-free bass I've ever owned. Great versatility in tone, very easy and fast to play, and insanely portable. What I like most about it is the tone of the composite body, which is unlike any of the other graphite basses I've tried.

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It's 100% original, nothing changed except the batteries and strings. It has two tiny dings on the back of the neck, but other than that, pretty much looks plays the exact same as the day I bought it almost 20 years ago.

I love the way it looks, the way it hangs on me (perfect balance), and the way it plays. String spacing is on the narrow side, but I'm used to it, as it was my main player for about 15 years.

NOT FOR SALE.
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And a big :spit: to Gibson for discontinuing the XL basses without first making enough wide 5s to go around. BOOOO!!!!
 
I had an L2 for about ten years. Bought it used for $550, sold it about 18 months ago for $1300. It was a VERY, VERY early serial #, being 00021. Raised letter EMG pickups. Someone had defretted it before I got it. It was always a nice bass. As I recall, it had just a tad more relief in the neck than I like when tuned to pitch. That isn't why I sold it, I just never played it anymore, and I figured I could use the $$ elsewhere.

Nice basses though.

Lee
 
hmmm, to my ear I hear little difference between mine. The only physical difference aside from opening it up I have found in the 3 that I have is the red xl2 I have has center detents in the pots... looks like I am going to have to tear em open.
 
Here are my 2 Steinbergers, and XL2A and an XP-2. The XL2A has a stacked tone knob and HAZ Lab preamp, hence the "A" designation. I also replaced the jaws and bridges on the XL2A with newer parts. The jaws stripped out on me last year. I Would have posted my GR-4, but this is a bass thread!
 
I have a Hohner 5 string that I've never been happy with. What strings do you recommend (low B)? I like a warm, poppy tone. Not trying to derail, but if I can't get opinions on double ball strings in this thread then I may as well give up and trade it for a cheeseburger.
 
Here are my 2 Steinbergers, and XL2A and an XP-2. The XL2A has a stacked tone knob and HAZ Lab preamp, hence the "A" designation. I also replaced the jaws and bridges on the XL2A with newer parts. The jaws stripped out on me last year. I Would have posted my GR-4, but this is a bass thread!

Ok, after looking at Steinbergerworld again, there is a document that wasn't there, or I hadn't notice before. The red one is an XL2-A, and my other two are not A's... good to know. The stacked tone knob I don't think I have seen.. hmm.