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Sterling Ray35 Pickup and Preamp Swap

ahbass2500

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Nov 28, 2003
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Searched a few threads to find info on swapping pickup and preamp in a Sterling Ray35. While I found some discussions, I did not find a concise thread on it (particularly on pickup size), so going to offer up the modifications I did on mine.

Parts:
Delano Quad Coil Pickup (MC5 FE/M2 EB 5 String MV)
4 way switch (I used Toneshaper Core Switch)
John East MM preamp (MMSR 1-Pickup 4-Knob 3-Band)
Pickguard modified for MM5 no ear pickup shape (custom order from Paradox Guitar Supply)

The only difficult part of this swap is enlarging the factory pickup opening (see photo). While I have a decent Bosch router, I opted to use a Dremel with plunge router attachment and Dremel router bit. I was able to get the opening accurate without using a template. If you happen to mess up, the pickguard should cover up your error anyway.

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Before:
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After:
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I liked the sound from the Ray35 in stock form, but felt the preamp could use improvement (seemed to distort a little at more extreme settings). Since I was already opening it up, I decided to swap the pickup as well. This turned out to be a good move. One of my favorite Musicman sounds is single coil setting from the 3 coil basses. With the quad coil pickup and four way switch, I have series, parallel, and two different single coil settings (neck and bridge). All settings are hum free.

One thing worth noting is the pole pieces appear slightly out of alignment after the mod. After looking at photos, I realized they were before the mod as well. No impact on sound, but if the aesthetic issue bothers you, then go for something that does not have exposed polepieces (assuming you like the sound of those options).
 
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Very Nice. I think the black pearl guard looks much better than the black too.

How does that Delano sound? What was the deciding factor that brought you to Delano? I don't own a Stingray, and want one, so my next build is going to be a Ray vibe single PU in bridge position. I'm sold on the John East stuff (own a couple), but I'm looking at different pickup options and curious about the Delano.

Again, very nice.
 
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How does that Delano sound? What was the deciding factor that brought you to Delano?

I knew I wanted a quad coil, so that I could have silent single coil options on the coil switch. I like all 4 settings on the coil switch and they all have a distinct sound (so I am happy with the quad coil choice). If I were to wire 3 way, I would probably eliminate the series mode. That said, I am glad I went with a 4 way switch.

Nordstrand, Bartolini, and Delano were the readily available quad coil options in the no ear MM5 shape. I have used the Bartolini quad coil MM before and liked it. I read mixed reviews on the Nordstrand Quad Coil (seems everyone likes the MM5.2, but the MM5.4 is hit and miss). I have never tried Delano pickups, which is ultimately what caused me to buy this pickup (not a great reason, but it was my reason).

I think the important part of a Stingray build is the preamp. The John East MM preamp was backordered and took 2 months to come in. I installed the Delano pickup and coil tap switch wired directly to the output jack while I waited for the preamp. Set up this way, the Delano had a nice punch to it with a nice top end brightness, but was lacking on low end. The preamp fixed the low end issue. If you go with the Delano, pair it with an MM voiced preamp (MM style preamps are not flat and have a low end boost).
 
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Set up this way, the Delano had a nice punch to it with a nice top end brightness, but was lacking on low end. The preamp fixed the low end issue. If you go with the Delano, pair it with an MM voiced preamp (MM style preamps are not flat and have a low end boost).
Thanks. I would definitely go with the East pre also. The 4 pos. switch, having both single coil options and series/parallel seems like the way to go. Is the switch wired in before or after the preamp?

I have never tried Delano pickups, which is ultimately what caused me to buy this pickup
In the same boat. I've been really wanting to try Delano stuff as well. The only other PU I'm considering is the quad coil Xtender. Not sure?
 
Thanks. I would definitely go with the East pre also. The 4 pos. switch, having both single coil options and series/parallel seems like the way to go. Is the switch wired in before or after the preamp?

Yes. Pickup goes to the switch. Output from the switch goes into the preamp. Used this wiring diagram for the 4 way: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1941/7837/files/NA_wiring_diagram_4-way_blade_switch_copy.pdf. Figured out wire colors based on the Delano diagrams (Neck Hot/Ground = White/Brown; Bridge Hot/Ground = Green/Yellow).
 
Thanks for doing this.
Where’d you get the pickguard?

I just snagged a Ray35 and i’m waiting for it to come in.
I’m excited about the 3 way switch, but i miiiiight see if i could wire it series/single/parallel. Not that i anticipate using the single all that much, but i might.
(I also intend to commit blasphemy by putting in a Pbass pickup in its sweet spot, so maybe that single setting could be handy after all.)
No idea what preamp i’m going with, but i’ve liked the EMGs i’ve used in the past. Neutral tone, good EQ points.
Vol/blend - treb/bass - mid/freq - tone sounds super useful.
And i saw a demo for the Delano Jay-Ray that killed in both series and parallel settings (Thanks FatBassTone.com for that!)
But gonna run it stock for a bit to get used to it, then decide what actually needs to be done.