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Strange missing notes on new rig

banjo5

banjo5

Dec 8, 2009
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Cincinnati
#1
I played a brand new rig out for the first time this weekend. It's a Mesa M6 Carbine into an H322 Bergie cab. It really smokes. During the set though, I started noticing that certain notes got swollowed up and were much less audible than others. The worst one was D note on the A string at the 5th fret. It only seemed to happen with the whole band playing, during a song. The low D (B string at the 3rd fret) was fine. My questions are; has anyone else experienced this, and if so, what, if anything can I do about it.
Here are some details; Medium sized hall with tile floor and concrete block walls, and drop ceiling. 2 guitars a drummer and me. My rig is stage right, next to a 30 watt Matchless guitar rig. We are about 10 feet behind the house gear (powered sub and a 1-12 and a horn high pack). The guitar player on my side of the stage and I were sharing a monitor. We play rock/country type stuff.
 
#3
The M6 has a knob that basically has 5 "preset" eq settings. Deep mid scoop, shallow mid scoop, flat, mild mid boost, and way mid boost. I was running at the shallow mid scooped setting. Then I had my bass rolled to about 2 O'Clock and my treble rolled to about 2 O'Clock. Nothing like a graphic eq where I had 100 or 200 hz dropped out or something like that.
 
#6
Next practice play it just like it is, but try moving the amp. If that don't work throw the mid into boost a bit.

For us mortals, bedroom tone almost never works in a band setting without an engineer present.
 
#7
banjo5 said:
The M6 has a knob that basically has 5 "preset" eq settings. Deep mid scoop, shallow mid scoop, flat, mild mid boost, and way mid boost. I was running at the shallow mid scooped setting. Then I had my bass rolled to about 2 O'Clock and my treble rolled to about 2 O'Clock. Nothing like a graphic eq where I had 100 or 200 hz dropped out or something like that.
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i would have to say that's your main culprit. adding a shallow mid scoop to another shallow mid scoop results in a pretty sizable mid scoop. while the room modes can also cause that, i think you're just over-scooping.
 
#8
Thanks fellas. I'll keep it in mind for the next gig. You're right great "alone tone" isn't necessarily great live tone. I guess it would be best then to run my DI pre eq then? That would allow me to set my stage eq without affecting what he's doing in the house. Does that make sense?
 
#9
banjo5 said:
Thanks fellas. I'll keep it in mind for the next gig. You're right great "alone tone" isn't necessarily great live tone. I guess it would be best then to run my DI pre eq then? That would allow me to set my stage eq without affecting what he's doing in the house. Does that make sense?
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yes, at least until you get your sound thing straightened out.
 

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