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Stupid car. Can anyone help?

Given the fast rise and fall of the temp indicator, my vote is for one of two things, in order of likelihood:

1) Bad temp sensor (bad wiring is not likely)

2) Thermostat sticking

Number 2 is unlikely because coolant temp doesn't go up and down in a few seconds. It can't. it has to take time to circulate around the radiator and block. I'd see if I can find the wire that connects to the temp sensor, ground it and see if the gauge maxes out. If so, I bet the sensor is doing the same internally. In any case, I'd replace the sensor and see what happens.

Now all you need is to find a 70-year-old French mechanic to open the hood on the Peugeot.
This makes sense, listen to Pilgrim or call the Tappet Brothers. Invalid Link Removed
 
If this particular vehicle has an external or secondary fuse-box under the hood..........you might just want to pop it open and check for moisture, excessive dust, birdnests,spiders, mice or anything else that could cause a temporary short.......you don't need to take the fuses out though.


You can buy a "code-reader' device from most auto-chain stores for about a hundred bucks...
Very helpful in a host of situations.

But you need to know if your vehicle has a plug-in to accept it and you need the correct code-reader. There are a couple of different types.
 
CTS (coolant temp sensor) or the wiring.

Here's a song written by Peter Lehndorff, a friend of mine in Massachusetts, and it seems appropriate for this thread:

I drive an old Peugeot, but
I can't speak French.
I carry jumper cables, and
I carry a wrench.
It skips when it's raining
And it stalls when it's dry
And the damn thing blew up on the
Fourth of July.

Whoopee ty-yi-yay
Parlez-vous francais
Whoopee ty-yi-yo
Would you fix my Peugeot?

I bought a new engine,
I bought a new clutch,
And another thousand dollars
Didn't buy much.
I went to my mechanic, and he
Shed not a tear,
He said, you and that Peugeot
Just get out of here.

Whoopee ty-yi-yay
Parlez-vous francais
Whoopee ty-yi-yo
Would you fix my Peugeot?

Well it spits and it sputters as I
Drive down the street
And something keeps dripping on the
Top of my feet.
We're going on vacation
If I have some luck
My Peugeot will follow
I'll drive a tow truck.

Whoopee ty-yi-yay
Parlez-vous francais
Whoopee ty-yi-yo
Would you fix my Peugeot?
Whoopee ty-yi-yay
Let's call Triple-A
Whoopee ty-yi-yo
Would you fix my Peugeot?
 
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You may also want to check your user manual for that vehicle....

Most cars come with an onboard rudimentary form of code-reader.......accessed by turning the ignition key in a prescribed combination.

Once you access...it shows the malfunction code on your dash....and you compare the code to a code master list (which should be in the back of the manual someplace).

Or it will be an audible "beep' code......sort of like Morse code....something like ,say, 2 short-1 long-3 short.......so you compare the number to the code list and find out what's wrong.

Or you can take it to your neighborhood auto repair guy...who is usually way cheaper than a dealer for repairs......he'll most likely have a code reader or master engine analyzer.

and this how many of the auto repair guys quickly find out where to start on a malfunction......
 
You may also want to check your user manual for that vehicle....

Most cars come with an onboard rudimentary form of code-reader.......accessed by turning the ignition key in a prescribed combination.

Once you access...it shows the malfunction code on your dash....and you compare the code to a code master list (which should be in the back of the manual someplace).

Or it will be an audible "beep' code......sort of like Morse code....something like ,say, 2 short-1 long-3 short.......so you compare the number to the code list and find out what's wrong.

Or you can take it to your neighborhood auto repair guy...who is usually way cheaper than a dealer for repairs......he'll most likely have a code reader or master engine analyzer.

and this how many of the auto repair guys quickly find out where to start on a malfunction......

The OP said the car is 15 years old, so it would have an OBD2 port that a code scanner can plug into. However, it's very likely that the ECU would not report an electrical fault related to the sensor for a gauge, unless the ECU uses the same sensor for calculating the fuel/air ratio (from what I've seen, that would be unusual).
 
Sensor, thermostat. My money is on sensor/connector, because I believe the temp indication goes up as resistance increases. Less current flow=higher reading. This could be caused by a bad connection at the sensor, or where it terminates. The turn signal issue is probably an unrelated, different problem. But I don't know those cars so MAYBE there's a 'global' problem somewhere, with a large multi pin connector, or a ground bus someplace. Look for crusty engine grounds, or bus grounds in a fuse panel.