Suggest me a pedal: delay? modulation?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by HCF, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. HCF

    HCF Of course, YMMV

    Nov 30, 2008
    My pedal board (Bassbone v2, Damnation Audio MBD-2, Behringer SF-300, Walrus Audio Slö) has a gaping hole and after selling my AfterShock and Holy Grail I have money (let's max it at $200) to fill it up. Problem is, I don't know with what. I'm kinda thinking a delay (sounds cool but the Slö has already a lot of cool sounds) or maybe a flanger (or something else that does wooosh).

    I use the board with my EUB in a stoner/sludge/doom project.

    So please overload me with suggestions so I can keep my GAS going :cool:
  2. Koshchei


    Mar 17, 2019
    Peterborough, ON
    BOSS CE-2W if you want a lush, beautiful modulation. If you want less wobble, then the Dimension DC-2W is a great sounding effect too, though it is a gateway drug to a stereo setup.
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  3. dax21


    Nov 26, 2011
    If you want wooosh, try a phaser on bass. Took me a long time to figure out that that was what I heard in my mind while trying to tweak my chorus pedal.
  4. Grahams Groove

    Grahams Groove If it feels heavy, it's heavy. Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    Since you already dig the SLO and know Walrus Audio, check out their Lillian phaser and ARP-87 delay. Both are great and super functional on bass.
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  5. knumbskull


    Jul 28, 2007
    Yep phaser is well suited to psychedelic doom sounds!
  6. I haven't tried it but how about the ElectroHarmonix Modulator? Should get your Mod on!
  7. 220_Hz

    220_Hz Supporting Member

    May 9, 2016
    San Diego
    I was dead set on buying a moog MF Trem + expression, EQD Grand Orbiter Phase, and a Catalinbread Echorec

    Now I’m thinking I might just buy ZOIA instead and make my own modular patches for delay phase and trem. That little bugger can do a TON, but it is digital and looks like it has a big learning curve so those may be a turn off. Seriously though. Look up ZOIA when you have a minute, it does every type of effect imaginable except compression(?) and can even be its own instrument. It even does stereo, midi and CV
  8. HoochfromP


    Jan 14, 2013
    Sushibox Octopus seems like a great answer to these empty space on board issues. Waiting for mine to land in France, but was sold on@DirtyDuke thoughts about it on bass.
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  9. HCF

    HCF Of course, YMMV

    Nov 30, 2008
    Thanks for all the suggestions. Enough pedals to put on the list :)
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  10. Pulverizor


    Jun 14, 2018
    New Zealand

    Or Valeton Coral Mod.
  11. Doom?, Sludge?, I don’t know what that means, but it sounds like you’re describing
    Black Sabbath. Two words: Envelope Filter. Trust me.
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  12. PJsaure


    Jul 18, 2017
    +1 for ZOIA. You even have nice pre-made patches on, users often include sound samples with their patches so you can check out what is possible (hint: it is endless).

    You can use it as a multi-effects by simply chaining effects modules (phaser, delay, chorus, vibrato, tremolo, reverb, etc...), and that is not hard to learn, or do crazy things with it.

    And it has a compression module.
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  13. 220_Hz

    220_Hz Supporting Member

    May 9, 2016
    San Diego
    I’ve only been introduced to ZOIA recently, I’m still discovering all it can do before I pull the trigger. It looks like the comprehensive all in one station of my dreams :drool:

    However, I’m also looking to get into the world of modular synth/eurorack, so the way effect modules are created makes a ton of sense to me now that I’ve done enough familiarizing
  14. Boss MO-2 Multi Overtone is a really cool, underrated pedal that I think bass players should pay more attention to. It's a polyphonic octaver with chorus, like a POG but simpler, cheaper, and better sounding, and with Boss chorus. Really unique and surprisingly viable effect for bass. You'd be amazed at how the chorus smooths out the octave up, which can be very ice picky and harsh on other octave up pedals. I'd say Mode 2 alone is worth the price of the pedal.
  15. HCF

    HCF Of course, YMMV

    Nov 30, 2008
    no no, not like. LOOOVE the Slö. :laugh: The ARP sounds nice!

    ooh, sounds interesting!
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  16. vbrodgers


    Jan 31, 2019
    I have the MO-2 but I'm currently lending it to my guitarist as he seems to be able to use out of it than me. My biggest issue with it was being heard in a mix with 2 guitars and keys but I'm still a novice when it comes to dialing in effects properly. I think if I was to be in more of a trio situation I would use it more live. Definitely fun to play around with alone but not super practical in my band.

    As for OP's original question, I've been having a lot of fun with my Zoom MS-60B and EHX Freeze. I use the freeze for as a pad for ambient stuff and use the Zoom for effects I dont use enough to justify getting individual stompboxes for(chorus, delay, reverb, phaser, envelope)
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  17. PJsaure


    Jul 18, 2017
    If you want to get into modular, maybe you should wait for the ZOIA Euroburo.

    It is a very versatile pedal, the main things that would need improvement in my opinion would be the pitch detection and the pitch shifting modules.
    I dreamt about sequenced synths that would be triggered/advanced by detecting the onset of the notes I am playing but couldn’t make it work reliably. There is always a note that is not picked up, or it ends up detecting two consecutive notes instead of one, etc. Even when trying to play very cleanly and evenly, the sensitivity of certain modules is hard to get right.
    So I rely on tap tempo for such use cases, it is just a learning curve for me as I am not used to tap tempo while I am playing.

    So I can’t do everything I imagined I could do with it.
    But then I also discovered some things I can do that I did not think about before having it.
    So versatile, so inspiring, so useful ! The fact that you can route your signal any way you want and that you have two pairs of input/output jacks is so good. You don’t necessarily have to use the pairs of jacks for stereo signal, you can use a pair as an insert/effects loop. In fact I am thinking about putting something that could compliment ZOIA weaknesses in an effects loop configuration so that I can send it my signal and do what ZOIA is not so good at (which is not much).

    Anyway, enough thread derailing.
    Just wanted to mention that to me, the built in effects module sound really good to me. I particularly like the phaser (which you can configure as a 1 to 8 stages by the way). The reverbs and the envelope filter are also very good, some fuzzes are not so bad for digital in my opinion.
  18. 220_Hz

    220_Hz Supporting Member

    May 9, 2016
    San Diego
    Oh man, thanks for all the insight! I’m probably gonna get the pedalboard format because bass is my main instrument and I’m not seeing myself buying modular equipment until I move to a bigger practice space. I’m mainly looking to do the standard array of bass effects with it, but I also like experimenting with ring mod and different chains, which was my first peek into what it can do. I found an interesting sound the other day turning on and off an octave pedal while I was arpeggiating and I want to try and program something to do the same function now to test my wit and save my foot :roflmao:
  19. PJsaure


    Jul 18, 2017
    You can certainly do that kind of thing with ZOIA :whistle:
    It can arpegiate for you, and add an octaver every other note. Or you can arpegiate yourself and it can simply turn on and off the octaver.
    However, as I said, the pitch shifting is not the best. It works well, but it has a sound, it is kind of modulated, not a simple clean pitch shift. It can be cool, but it may not be what you look for, so be sure to check out pitch shifting demos.

    Also, there would probably be a sequencer module involved in this, so you have to think about how to advance the sequencer steps. The most reliable way in my opinion is either a fixed tempo set by an LFO or via tap tempo.
    If it needs to be triggered by your playing, your playing needs to be very clean and consistent, and slow, in my experience.