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Super Rant... Am I alone?

Printing up a whole bunch of Squier logos to slap on everything would make me very happy. Just to be ornery. Gibson? Squire logo! Rickenbacker? Squire logo! You get the idea. That would fix 'em! But, there are other priorities. That project will have to wait.

My electric guitar is a Squier Bullet built in the 1980s, then spray painted and disassembled in the 1990s. I got it in baggies and rebuilt it. It wears its Squier Bullet 1 logo proudly, and anybody who disrespects it gets a sonic strafing. That fixes 'em good!
 
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I play a road worn Lado - the logo has long ago been worn off so no one has any idea what kind of bass it is. I have nothing against Squier or any other "lesser" brands in fact i'm looking at picking up the fretless squire jazz. Good job if you can find quality equipment ( guitar. amp etc) that works for you and is much less then the current boutique brands. That tells me that you are not a lemming that buys gear just because everyone else is using it. Buy gear that works for you and your budget if that is Fender, Ampeg , or Squier and Traynor.

The whole argument is a moot point in the end because the proof will come out in your playing.. If you sound good and play what fits the music who really cares what you are using? These Small Minded Gear Snobs where logos are important most likely can't back it up by their playing. Musicians who can back it up on stage really don't care what you use. IME
 
I play a road worn Lado - the logo has long ago been worn off so no one has any idea what kind of bass it is. I have nothing against Squier or any other "lesser" brands in fact i'm looking at picking up the fretless squire jazz. Good job if you can find quality equipment ( guitar. amp etc) that works for you and is much less then the current boutique brands. That tells me that you are not a lemming that buys gear just because everyone else is using it. Buy gear that works for you and your budget if that is Fender, Ampeg , or Squier and Traynor.

The whole argument is a moot point in the end because the proof will come out in your playing.. If you sound good and play what fits the music who really cares what you are using? These Small Minded Gear Snobs where logos are important most likely can't back it up by their playing. Musicians who can back it up on stage really don't care what you use. IME
Absolutely, I've owned lots of different brands. If I had the funds at the moment, I'd be using a Ric and not a Classic Vibe. The way I look at the whole picture is. I don't care what your head stock says, let's get together, jam and have fun. That's music!
 
a Squier IS a Fender....
In the late 1970s and early 1980s Fender was facing competition from lower priced Japanese made guitars. The higher priced Fender guitars were made in America and could not compete with the lower prices of Japanese made [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]. In the early 1980s, Japanese labour and production costs were much lower than in America and to compete with the Japanese made guitars, Fender moved the lower priced Fender guitar production from America to Japan.

Fender was also losing sales in Japan to Japanese guitar brands such as Tōkai, Greco and Fernandes and the establishment of Fender Japan would benefit Fender sales in Japan as well as overseas. Fender began negotiations with several Japanese musical instrument distributors and reached an agreement withYamano Gakki and Kanda Shokai to establish Fender Japan. Yamano Gakki is also known for once being part of Epiphone Japan. Kanda Shokai owned the Greco brand name and one of the conditions of the Fender Japan agreement was that Kanda Shokai cease production of its own Greco Fender copies.

This arrangement benefited Fender because it removed the Greco Fender copies from the Japanese market which were selling in Japan at much lower prices than the American made Fenders and it also benefited Kanda Shokai because Kanda Shokai could then distribute Japanese made Fender branded guitars in Japan. Further negotiations between Fender and Japanese guitar factories took place. Tokai was seriously considered to start building the first Japanese made Fenders, but after a breakdown in negotiations, FujiGenGakki was chosen instead.[4]

The first Squier series was launched on July/August 1982 and over time the Squier series has slowly evolved to include original model designs and production has moved from Japan to various other Asian countries such as Korea and China.

As follows is an approximate method in which Squier dates the serial numbers of manufactured instruments.

Mexican Squiers[edit]
MN: M = Mexico, N = Nineties (1990s), the first number following the serial number prefix is the year.

MZ: M = Mexico, Z = 2000's, the first number following the serial number prefix is the year.

For example

  • "MN8" indicates that it was made at Ensenada, Mexico in 1998-1999.
  • "MZ1" indicates that it was made at Ensenada, Mexico in 2001-2002
USA Squiers[edit]
Some USA made Squiers have a serial number with an E = Eighties (1980s) prefix, and some have a serial number with a N = Nineties (1990s) prefix. Early USA made Squiers had a 00XXXX serial stamp on the neckplate with no letter prefix and no serial number on the headstock. The rarest early ones had a 4 digit decal on the headstock and vintage style tuners



Fender MIM was Squier Branded until, the early 2000's



 
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FACT: Squiers are very often owned and played by absolute beginners

...so there's that, BUT i just played a gig where we needed to use a sub for our guitar player. He showed up with a, you guessed it, Squier. It kind of made me go :eyebrow:. As soon as we started playing, it was obvious he was a great player and any misgivings were unfounded.
I'm far from a beginner --- (50YO) and i proudly play a Squier..
And a Warwick Dolphin... the Squier gets the most play, and it feels Great sounds great looks great....

Odd as it is i showed up to an audition with the Warwick, Epifani 4x10 UL1, and TC Electronic RH450.

the guitarist looks at me and said dont bother plugging in all that import S*T sound like crap.

meanwhile he was plugged into a peavey Vypr with a Halo les paul wannabe POS (made in Korea assembled in San Jose, ca)
 
That's too bad about your cousin. I bet he could play rings around MIM Fender guy at that tender age. I'm hoping he goes back to it.
My first bass had no headstock lettering but on the back it said Simpson-Sears. That was the best I could afford at 11 but it was quite good and I'd love to have it now especially as it was a medium scale and my kids are around that age now.
I guess I suffered through gear-snobbism at one point. I had the opportunity to join a touring band but the leader wanted either a US-made BC Rich or a Lado bass rather than my Rickenbacker back in the mid-80's. Image must have been important because he was also asking I invest $10K in bass amplification, as well. At $200 a week pay (+ expenses) offered, I thought it best to walk away.
 
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My two mains for a long time were both frankensteins (p + j) and neither one had anything one the headstock.

The only comment I ever got was " Do you own a bass with a logo on it?" They didn't care about any brand in particular just being funny.


I would rather impress with skills, than a silly decal on the headstock.
 
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I'm far from a beginner --- (50YO) and i proudly play a Squier..
And a Warwick Dolphin... the Squier gets the most play, and it feels Great sounds great looks great....

Odd as it is i showed up to an audition with the Warwick, Epifani 4x10 UL1, and TC Electronic RH450.

the guitarist looks at me and said dont bother plugging in all that import S*T sound like crap.

meanwhile he was plugged into a peavey Vypr with a Halo les paul wannabe POS (made in Korea assembled in San Jose, ca)
I consider myself far from beginner level as well. I dig your squier. Looks like a Vintage modified.
 
That's too bad about your cousin. I bet he could play rings around MIM Fender guy at that tender age. I'm hoping he goes back to it.
My first bass had no headstock lettering but on the back it said Simpson-Sears. That was the best I could afford at 11 but it was quite good and I'd love to have it now especially as it was a medium scale and my kids are around that age now.
I guess I suffered through gear-snobbism at one point. I had the opportunity to join a touring band but the leader wanted either a US-made BC Rich or a Lado bass rather than my Rickenbacker back in the mid-80's. Image must have been important because he was also asking I invest $10K in bass amplification, as well. At $200 a week pay (+ expenses) offered, I thought it best to walk away.
Yeah, thanks a bunch. That kid will get what's coming to him someday I hope. I had access to a RIC and I would never put down a musician with lower grade gear than my own because honestly any gear can be reliable if maintained and treated well. I could care less what your headstock says, I just like making music!
 
I own a Squier 60's CV. After a nice setup it's one of the best and easiest playing basses I've ever owned.

Plus, I actually take it around and play it more often because it was less of a investment than my other bass, so if something unfortunate were to happen to it, I'd be out less money. That said, I'd still be sad because it sounds great and I love it.
 
I own a Squier 60's CV. After a nice setup it's one of the best and easiest playing basses I've ever owned.

Plus, I actually take it around and play it more often because it's less of a monetary investment than my other bass, so if something unfortunate were to happen to it, I'd be out less money. That said, I'd still be sad because it sounds great and I love it.
Totally agree, I just bought a used/like new CV Jazz bass. I can't wait for it to arrive in the mail! I personally would invest in a used ric over a BRAND new and shiny American Fender any day of the week. I'm just a ric guy, so that's probably why. I've sold many basses that I DEEPLY regret selling and still kick myself over them.
 
I own a Squier 60's CV. After a nice setup it's one of the best and easiest playing basses I've ever owned.

Plus, I actually take it around and play it more often because it was less of a investment than my other bass, so if something unfortunate were to happen to it, I'd be out less money. That said, I'd still be sad because it sounds great and I love it.
Have any pictures? :D
 
I own a Squier 60's CV. After a nice setup it's one of the best and easiest playing basses I've ever owned.

Plus, I actually take it around and play it more often because it was less of a investment than my other bass, so if something unfortunate were to happen to it, I'd be out less money. That said, I'd still be sad because it sounds great and I love it.
Haha I don't get that. I've never played bass in an environment that made me worry about something happening to my instrument. With that mindset I would never drive my car anywhere.
 
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I consider myself far from beginner level as well. I dig your squier. Looks like a Vintage modified.
a heavily modified "Vintage Modified Precision V"
the LABEL, tuners, nut, pickguard, frets, string retainer, and finish are the only things left from the factory...
BUT it was a fine instrument when i received it stock...
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