TC Electronic RH450, RS210, RS212 Review Thread (Part V)

[iamthebassplayr]

I'd be a little concerned about pulling the amp right off the top with the cord.

Love the height though!

I was a bit, but the cable was running against the back wall, and like KJung said, the head still has a bit of heft, even for being micro.

Since then though I've always brought an extension cable/surge protector strip. Even though that was a 10 foot cable, it still wasn't long enough!

 

[scowboy]

RS112 showed up yesterday. Initial impressions are that pretty much adds the phat bomb everybody says when paired with a single RS210. Like it so far. Nice form factor but need to get a cover ASAP.

 

[Musicman20]

For me, 6 lbs is probably as light as I want a head to be, unless a company makes a way to secure the head easily and quickly to the top of their cabs without a lot of fuss and without adding a lot of additional weight to the cab. No mounting brackets or anything like that. Just secure it enough so that it can survive a good tug off the instrument cable without sliding off the cab. If you can do that in a 3-4 lb head, then I'm all for it. As it is, the LMII was just about perfect in terms of weight.

Big +1.

Im a rarity no doubt but the GB Shuttle 9.0 was a little too light for me.

 

[Eublet]

Big +1.

Im a rarity no doubt but the GB Shuttle 9.0 was a little too light for me.

I put velcro on the bottom of the rubber feet on my 6.0 to make it stick to the carpet on my Neox cabs. Worked great. Simple but effective, but it made the head even more slippery on non-carpeted cabs. The LMII was heavy enough to always seem secure, unless you really pulled the chord at a sharp angle.

 

[Ro(c)kBass]

I decided to put some rubber feet on my RS112 and RS210. At first I put the feet on the top of RS210 (if it stands vertically) so that when used stacked with RS112 beneath it the sides of cabinets would touch (without the feet in between) and when used solo I would turn it upside down and put it on the feet.
After putting the feet on the cabinet I realized that if it is turned upside down the holes in the RS210 cover do not align with the handles and that the tweeter is further away from my ears. So I put additional rubber feet on the bottom too. Now when I stack RS210 with RS112 there are feet between the cabinets which makes the stack a bit less stable. I didn’t remove the feet from the top of the cabinet as I’d hate to see the holes. The good thing is that the feet on the top of the cabinet keep the RH450 in place (they are a bit higher than the feet of RH450) so it is less likely that I will accidentally pull the amp off the cabinet.

Someone was asking how to put the feet on the cabinet a while ago so here is how I did it. First I decided where to put the feet than I used a hammer and hit each screw lightly once or twice so it was stable. Finally I used a screwdriver to tighten the screw in while pushing the screw into the wood– no electric tools needed at all.

And one more thing about the covers; the RS210 cover fits well on RS112 – it is not perfect as it is a little bit too big and has holes for handles on both sides but otherwise it is OK -> I use it all the time.

 

[Rick Auricchio]

And one more thing about the covers; the RS210 cover fits well on RS112 – it is not perfect as it is a little bit too big and has holes for handles on both sides but otherwise it is OK -> I use it all the time.

Does one of the handle holes in the cover line up with the handle of the RS112?

 

[::::BASSIST::::]

I've been building a rack for my LMII and have already made the cuts. Now that I have an rh450 enroute I am wanting to use that rack for this amp instead.... looks like the dimensions are very similar with both amps so it will likely work.

However, for it to work I'll have to take the feet off the 450. Are they just screwed on?

 

[nervous]

I decided to put some rubber feet on my RS112 and RS210.
Someone was asking how to put the feet on the cabinet a while ago so here is how I did it. First I decided where to put the feet than I used a hammer and hit each screw lightly once or twice so it was stable. Finally I used a screwdriver to tighten the screw in while pushing the screw into the wood– no electric tools needed at all.

8 feet, 8 small, pre-drilled holes, 8 screws, 0 future worries about setting them on anything...

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[Ro(c)kBass]

Does one of the handle holes in the cover line up with the handle of the RS112?

Yes, it does.

 

[::::BASSIST::::]

I've been building a rack for my LMII and have already made the cuts. Now that I have an rh450 enroute I am wanting to use that rack for this amp instead.... looks like the dimensions are very similar with both amps so it will likely work.

However, for it to work I'll have to take the feet off the 450. Are they just screwed on?

A pic I pulled off the TB classifieds (great deal btw)

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[Scott McArron]

Gigged my Rh450 2x210 stack tonight at a well known venue. It wasn't what I hoped for, in all honesty. Typically, I can hear myself better with my DB750/GS410 rig and can play fairly light. I had a hard time dialing in a tone with the TC rig that punched through the mix. I ended up tweaking tone all night long just to end up with blistered fingers again from playing harder than necessary to hear myself.

I'm going to spend some more time with it at next weekend's gig. It's outdoors at a spot I've played man times before (Pike Place Market in Seattle) so this should give me a pretty good gauge as to how well the TC rig holds up. I really want to like it for its form factor and gigging features, but I'm not totally satisfied yet. I never thought I'd say that a DB750 rig would be tighter sounding with more depth, but with that Telefunken in the V1, its pure bliss! However, the Aggie rig doesn't fit in my dream car, so we have a problem...

 

[nervous]

As a follow up to the RH450 for the Staccato51 and back to the RH450 swap I set up an S51 preset using the information gleaned here regarding their factory frequency centers. I will say that it was very passable. I was only using a single RS210 but I did like the sound throughout the night. So, for now I am satisfied.
As an interesting side note during our limited sound check I started off on a basic setting that I dialed in and almost immediately when I switched to the "S51" preset my band-mate commented "Ooh, that one sounds good!" Now, he knows nothing of what I do or did but I found it interesting that the last time he made a positive comment about my bass sound was the last time we were in the same place and I was actually using the S51 head. So there was something convincing about the quality in that preset that he noticed. So you can have it all I guess...

 

[Eublet]

Gigged my Rh450 2x210 stack tonight at a well known venue. It wasn't what I hoped for, in all honesty. Typically, I can hear myself better with my DB750/GS410 rig and can play fairly light. I had a hard time dialing in a tone with the TC rig that punched through the mix. I ended up tweaking tone all night long just to end up with blistered fingers again from playing harder than necessary to hear myself.

I'm going to spend some more time with it at next weekend's gig. It's outdoors at a spot I've played man times before (Pike Place Market in Seattle) so this should give me a pretty good gauge as to how well the TC rig holds up. I really want to like it for its form factor and gigging features, but I'm not totally satisfied yet. I never thought I'd say that a DB750 rig would be tighter sounding with more depth, but with that Telefunken in the V1, its pure bliss! However, the Aggie rig doesn't fit in my dream car, so we have a problem...

Shat do you mean by cut through the mix? It's not like the RH450 has a natural sound that is far from a flat tone. Except for the top-end roll-off, I think it's fairly neutral except for a bit of low-mid bump. Did you find yourself wanting more bottom, upper-mid, treble, or what? I suggest that on the next outing, you try the RS450 with your GS410 and see what happens, or try the DB740 with the RS210 stack.

 

[rodneyat]

While the RH450 and RS210 are quite small, they aren't particularly lightweight. The RH450 weighs in at around 9 pounds (I think)

I find this a funny statement too..but, one of the things I "don't like" about the RH450 is the weight. Not that it is super heavy by any means. It is just heavier than you would expect for it's size. Which goes to it's apparent build quality. I still love mine. But, in my mix of stuff it is my "small, lightweight" head. So, if I find something smaller and lighter that I like as much. I will probably switch. My main amp is still my Epi PS 1000. The RH450 is the alternate.

 

[Vic]

I find this a funny statement too..but, one of the things I "don't like" about the RH450 is the weight. Not that it is super heavy by any means. It is just heavier than you would expect for it's size. Which goes to it's apparent build quality. I still love mine. But, in my mix of stuff it is my "small, lightweight" head. So, if I find something smaller and lighter that I like as much. I will probably switch. My main amp is still my Epi PS 1000. The RH450 is the alternate.

I actually really like the weight of these. It's light enough to be absolutely no big deal, yet heavy enough to not feel like a light tug on a speaker cord would send the amp sailing off the top of your cab, or the weight of all the cords coming off the back could cause the amp to literally angle upwards.

 

[rodneyat]

I actually really like the weight of these. It's light enough to be absolutely no big deal, yet heavy enough to not feel like a light tug on a speaker cord would send the amp sailing off the top of your cab, or the weight of all the cords coming off the back could cause the amp to literally angle upwards.

I can definitely agree with that...that is one of the big issues with the super lightweights like the Shuttle 3.0 and such.

 

[Vic]

I can definitely agree with that...that is one of the big issues with the super lightweights like the Shuttle 3.0 and such.

Yeah, I really feel like once you get to this weight, "you're good". I think the next thing will be to continue to make cabs on the lighter side, tho stop at the point (if we ever get there) where physical stability becomes a concern.

Once we get to the point where we can literally toss our 410 cabs up to a stage tech and have him catch it like a beach ball, it's gone too far.

 

[rodneyat]

Once we get to the point where we can literally toss our 410 cabs up to a stage tech and have him catch it like a beach ball, it's gone too far.

Nice one...

I've played some cabs that are almost like that...Generally, when they get that light...they don't sound good. Maybe the designs and methods will get better and that will change. I kinda feel, at least at this point, cabs have that middle ground too. If you go super light and small they loose something in tone.

 

[::::BASSIST::::]

Yeah, I really feel like once you get to this weight, "you're good". I think the next thing will be to continue to make cabs on the lighter side, tho stop at the point (if we ever get there) where physical stability becomes a concern.

Once we get to the point where we can literally toss our 410 cabs up to a stage tech and have him catch it like a beach ball, it's gone too far.

Agreed. A couple months ago I was pumping 1000w into my 44LB LDS 15/6 and the thing was jumping an inch or two off the ground everytime I hit a note on the E string. I was watching it slowly bounce its way to the edge of the stage. Luckily the song ended before it got there. I stuck it in front of the drum monitor and it was fine after that. Next time I will put something on top of the cab to weigh it down. There was so much volume coming out of the cab the air coming out of it was *almost* painful as it pushed against my leg when I stood next to the cab. That was a crazy loud gig though. I was standing literally 5ft away from the drummer I could barely hear him ( I did have earplugs in). Crazy.

 

[Vic]

Agreed. A couple months ago I was pumping 1000w into my LDS 15/6 and the thing was jumping an inch or two off the ground everytime I hit a note on the E string. I was watching it slowly bounce its way to the edge of the stage. Luckily the song ended before it got there. I stuck it in front of the drum monitor and it was fine after that. Next time I will put something on top of the cab to weigh it down. There was so much volume coming out of the cab the air coming out of it was *almost* painful as it pushed against my leg when I stood next to the cab. That was a crazy loud gig though. I was standing literally 5ft away from the drummer I could barely hear him ( I did have earplugs in). Crazy.

LOL!!! That's awesome.

I've heard of walking bass before, but walking bass cabs???

...or... any of y'all old enough to remember the old magnetic/vibration table-top football games? Yeah... 'nuff said... put a jersey on that cab and enjoy.