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Tech 21 Oxford Vs. Joyo Oxford Sound?
- Thread starter Ritter667
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Maybe just buy another Joyo as back up.
Thank you for your voices of reason.
More sensible responses than I expected.
And might have saved me the temptation of the imagined greener grass on the other side, and with that some money as well.
The Joyo Oxford and California are all I use and a Broughton LPHP and a Diamond comp occasionally. I don't think any Orange amp sim upgrade is really needed, but the Master Effects or Tech 21, might give you some tighter effects. I thought about trying it, but the Oxford is so usable. I'd say get one, try it and send it back, if it's not much better. I really can't see it being miles above. I would recommend a LPHP, If you are not using one-- paired with the Oxford, it's all a good day in tune town.
Google AI:
, the Joyo Oxford Sound and the Tech 21 Oxford do not use the same chipset, although they share a similar analog design. The Joyo is a clone of the discontinued Tech 21 Oxford pedal, which emulates a classic Orange amplifier.
Key differences between the two pedals:
Google AI:
, the Joyo Oxford Sound and the Tech 21 Oxford do not use the same chipset, although they share a similar analog design. The Joyo is a clone of the discontinued Tech 21 Oxford pedal, which emulates a classic Orange amplifier.
Key differences between the two pedals:
- Manufacturer: Tech 21 designs and manufactures its own analog pedals in the USA, and the circuits are protected under patents. Joyo is a Chinese manufacturer that creates affordable pedals based on the designs of other companies.
- Components: The Tech 21 pedals use custom-designed circuits to achieve their tone, and the internal components are all-analog. The Joyo versions are cheaper copies that reportedly use similar but not identical component values.
- Circuitry and sound: While the Joyo pedal aims to replicate the Tech 21's sound, forum discussions and reviews from players who have owned both pedals indicate that they sound similar but not identical. This difference is likely due to the component variations, which can affect the final output.
- Speaker simulation: The Tech 21 Character series pedals have a defeatable speaker simulation, allowing players to turn it off when running the pedal into an amplifier's power section. In contrast, the Joyo clone has a fixed speaker simulation that cannot be switched off.
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My experience with Joyo - this was when they were just starting out is the Tremolo pedal died in about a month after warranty - yeah I was put 40 bucks and it pissed me off. Then for some reason - I bought the rechargeable power supply because it looked good on paper and YT reviewer had his running for over 6 hours- It worked good - I can run it for 2 - 3 for about 3 months using it at 2 rehearsals a week, Once again they put me down during a gig. Luckily I was able to charge and continued the set. But after that it won't just hold a charge even for 40 minutes. Outside of the return window but as per Amazon sold me a deep discount. And I returned the defective one. But I am not trusting the new one at all. I know there are a lot of happy customers but 2 bad experiences - I won't touch them at all.
In contrast Tech 21 repaired a BDDI that I bought used and only changed me shipping. I have worked with them prior though on a Freeze pedal and I just emailed my contact for the BDDI - so this may not be their policy.
In contrast Tech 21 repaired a BDDI that I bought used and only changed me shipping. I have worked with them prior though on a Freeze pedal and I just emailed my contact for the BDDI - so this may not be their policy.
In my ongoing search down the rabbit hole of distortion I've had both the Joyo and the Tech 21. The Joyo was noisy. I eventually decided the Oxford wasn't for me but operation wise I thought it was better than the Joyo and neither one of them was as good as my Bearfoot Blueberry.
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I have owned both the t21 and joyo.
I found that there’s a slight bass loss in the joyo not found in the t21.
Both are great pedals, and I wish that the t21 was more available (along with the Leeds).
The joyo orange juice is a fantastic version of this pedal though
I found that there’s a slight bass loss in the joyo not found in the t21.
Both are great pedals, and I wish that the t21 was more available (along with the Leeds).
The joyo orange juice is a fantastic version of this pedal though
I want to love my Joyo pedal more, but it's just a tad too noisy
I have a board with a couple of maybe not boutique but good quality pedals as well as a few knockoffs, like your Joyo. At the end of the day I think the knockoffs sound just as good, and if they're slightly less durable, that doesn't really concern me since I don't stomp on my pedalsThank you for your voices of reason.
More sensible responses than I expected.
And might have saved me the temptation of the imagined greener grass on the other side, and with that some money as well.
I'm still mad at Tech21 for always expanding on the VT only for bass and not using the Oxford, not even for the top-end of the sound.
I had the Oxford, Leeds, VT Bass, and Liverpool of the Character series(not to mention the BDDI and original Bass DI) and I found the overdriven character of the Oxford to be in another league especially on bass guitar.
It was the first pedal I had that my friend was like "hey man, this is the first time I hear that Billy Gould grunt you always talk about"
I had the Oxford, Leeds, VT Bass, and Liverpool of the Character series(not to mention the BDDI and original Bass DI) and I found the overdriven character of the Oxford to be in another league especially on bass guitar.
It was the first pedal I had that my friend was like "hey man, this is the first time I hear that Billy Gould grunt you always talk about"
Seems like they've ditched all of those original "character" pedals now, with just the Character Plus lines remaining and they didn't revisit anything with the Oxford so it must not have been as popular for guitarists as the Leeds (which is now in the "English Muffy" pedal). Your posts turned me on to the Oxford and I do love the high and mid response from that pedal in a way that few other pedals match by themselves. It is a bit harder to dial in the lows/low-mids to my tastes in many contexts (its pretty lean down low at most settings, which works fine for me sometimes but not always), but has been one of my favorite grit pedals when put into the high-pass part of a crossover looper where I can sculpt my lows independently.
My Joyo Oxford was noisy when bypassed. I got the Tech 21 and Joyo schematics. The Joyo has a buffer that the Tech 21 doesn't have, and it's still in the signal path when bypassed. That buffer was producing the bad hiss. I bypassed the buffer transistor and that was the end of the noise.
I definitely found it lacking in those lower frequencies compared to bass-specific pedals or some others. But it was the gnarly character of that high midrange and midrange that made me like it and made it feel different to most of Tech21's offerings, esp for bass.
