Tech 21 Red Ripper vs the VT??

[crownofstorms]

I own the VT pedal and use it almost all the time, but now that the Ripper is out I'm very intrigued by it as well. I haven't played one myself, but it seemed to be geared in more of a synth-sounding direction. For those of you who have used both, are they different enough that both are worth having/using together?

 

[DosiYanarchy]

Yeah, they sound totally different in probably every setting. the struggle would be if you wanted them to sound similar.

 

[tech21nyc]

The VT Bass employs our SansAmp technology and is an "amp emulator." It is designed to give you a library of Ampeg style tones and more. The Red Ripper is more of an effects/fuzz/distortion box that can emulate the tones of an envelope filter, synth tones, octave etc.

I would say that if you are pretty much using the VT Bass as an "always on" type of amp emulator the Red Ripper would be a nice compliment to that pedal. Not really an either or type of decision.

 

[Smit_Dogg]

A little off subject but still regarding the VT Bass...

I've recently purchased the superb VT Bass pedal and I've only ran it through a little 1x8 practise amp up to now and I've got to say, I love it! Its going to be permanently on. When it comes to shifting some air on stage, do you think it will be better incorparating it in my blend loop? Am I better off using it in the direct signal? Or is it a matter of personal taste?

Thanks

 

[crownofstorms]

Thank you, very helpful information! I've got to get my hands on one now for sure.

 

[alec]

A little off subject but still regarding the VT Bass...

I've recently purchased the superb VT Bass pedal and I've only ran it through a little 1x8 practise amp up to now and I've got to say, I love it! Its going to be permanently on. When it comes to shifting some air on stage, do you think it will be better incorparating it in my blend loop? Am I better off using it in the direct signal? Or is it a matter of personal taste?

Thanks

Probably into the amp input.

 

[Duke21]

A little off subject but still regarding the VT Bass...

I've recently purchased the superb VT Bass pedal and I've only ran it through a little 1x8 practise amp up to now and I've got to say, I love it! Its going to be permanently on. When it comes to shifting some air on stage, do you think it will be better incorparating it in my blend loop? Am I better off using it in the direct signal? Or is it a matter of personal taste?

Thanks

If you want the SVT sound it be best if you use the VT bass as your preamp, thus sending the signal from the VT bass into the effect-return. If your want the VT to function as an OD pedal you can use it as any other stomp-box, so effect-send into VT bass and back into effect-return or just into the amp input.

 

[tech21nyc]

The VT Bass can be used direct to the board, in the efx loop of an amp, into the front end of an amp or with a power amp. There is really no right or wrong way to use it as long as you are happy with the sound.

 

[Duke21]

The VT Bass can be used direct to the board, in the efx loop of an amp, into the front end of an amp or with a power amp. There is really no right or wrong way to use it as long as you are happy with the sound.

But I find your products such as the PBDDI, the Oxford etc to function better as preamps, thus right into the power section of the amp. On some amps like my Ibanez the internal preamp seems to fight with the sansamp maybe it is the auto comp./ limiter in there which does this, so I just bypass it by sending the signal right into the power section, sound much better then.

 

[tech21nyc]

But I find your products such as the PBDDI, the Oxford etc to function better as preamps, thus right into the power section of the amp. On some amps like my Ibanez the internal preamp seems to fight with the sansamp maybe it is the auto comp./ limiter in there which does this, so I just bypass it by sending the signal right into the power section, sound much better then.

They are preamps and can be a bit easier to use straight into your amp's power section as opposed to its preamp's section. Many of our users plug them in directly to their amp's and like the way they sound. You just need to keep in mind that it's best to set your amp's preamp for a more neutral tone if you plan on using the SansAmp as your main sound. The EQ sections on our SAnsAmp products are active and usually provide enough range to work either way. We also added the speaker sim switch to the newer Character Series pedals to make it even easier to use into the front end of an amp.

 

[Duke21]

They are preamps and can be a bit easier to use straight into your amp's power section as opposed to its preamp's section. Many of our users plug them in directly to their amp's and like the way they sound. You just need to keep in mind that it's best to set your amp's preamp for a more neutral tone if you plan on using the SansAmp as your main sound. The EQ sections on our SAnsAmp products are active and usually provide enough range to work either way. We also added the speaker sim switch to the newer Character Series pedals to make it even easier to use into the front end of an amp.

Yes I've this speaker defeat on my Oxford but I find it a bit dull without the sim on. I use my PBDDI and the Oxford as my preamps (one at the time) in front of a Peavey IPR 800 when I play with my band, at home I used to run them in front of my Ibanez combo, but there is no control other the preamp gain and it's auto limiter on this combo, so I found that the sound turned out to be far better running the sansamps into the aux!!! The sansamp seems to be "free" for the actions of the limiter etc. any way, your products are my sound

 

[gndboy]

I use my VT Bass DI (and the Red Ripper serially following) straight into a 1KW power amp and 4X10 plus 1X15 cabinets. It's a pretty good setup.

 

[Franz975]

The VT Bass employs our SansAmp technology and is an "amp emulator." It is designed to give you a library of Ampeg style tones and more. The Red Ripper is more of an effects/fuzz/distortion box that can emulate the tones of an envelope filter, synth tones, octave etc.

I would say that if you are pretty much using the VT Bass as an "always on" type of amp emulator the Red Ripper would be a nice compliment to that pedal. Not really an either or type of decision.

I was searching for a Synth-Fuzz pedal but don't know what to get. I have got a Darkglass ADAM but even if the 5th distortion is like that i can't keep it for only one sound as it cost 600$ lol
I don't find much review on the Red Ripper that make it sound like a Synth-Fuzz but I have seen that it can do a Moog style ? I can't get one to France just to try it