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The Acoustic Club
- Thread starter The Owl
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I think I saw that one in there and thought about buying it. But when I went back Greg couldn't find it. LOL!! Anyway, I lost interest. Glad its got a good home.
Does he still have the 360 in there?
Does he still have the 360 in there?
He said he had another one, but couldn't find it, either! Heh. Maybe that was the 360. I think I am done for now though. If I bring home any more giant noise making devices, I will have marital problems.
Its a fun shop to go to and Greg is very nice. I've spent hours playing thru old Bassmans, Showmans, etc. and he always seems happy to let me noodle around.
Acoustic For a Dummy.
A short time ago I thought I wrote to Vetchking at Acoustic to wish him a Happy New Year and to ask how the horn was coming along. I received this reply.
I have no current info on Acoustic-USA, I can't even tell you if it will actually happen as we have nothing to do with them or their ability to actually make the amps that they have boasted about bringing back.I have seen some of their samples and it's good quality-if they ever actually hit the market they are going to be really expensive..thanks for the email.....Peace
Best Regards,
Roy...
Acoustic Amplification!!
Who's Roy? Where's George? Who's "them"? Is the 360/361 reissue now a historical term? If the answers to these questions are somewhere in this massive thread, I apologize.
A short time ago I thought I wrote to Vetchking at Acoustic to wish him a Happy New Year and to ask how the horn was coming along. I received this reply.
I have no current info on Acoustic-USA, I can't even tell you if it will actually happen as we have nothing to do with them or their ability to actually make the amps that they have boasted about bringing back.I have seen some of their samples and it's good quality-if they ever actually hit the market they are going to be really expensive..thanks for the email.....Peace
Best Regards,
Roy...
Acoustic Amplification!!
Who's Roy? Where's George? Who's "them"? Is the 360/361 reissue now a historical term? If the answers to these questions are somewhere in this massive thread, I apologize.
I have no idea but it seems like it isn't going to happen any time soon. They kept saying "three months". But they've been saying that for about a year now.
Acoustic Amplification and Acoustic USA are two different companies. When you sent an email to Acoustic Amplification, you weren't sending an email to the same company that George is in charge of.
They've actually been saying it longer. The difference is that now they actually have a few prototypes and even some approximated price points for the 360/361 when it hits the market. The true "three months" is closer than ever.
Vetchking Here: What you did is write to GuitarCenter's Acoustic Amplification web site.
Roy the guy that wrote you is not in the loop. He obviously is an E-mail answerer.
The G.P.G. Co. is has a license to manufacture "acoustic" brand name bass amps Made In The USA, The G.P.G. Co has global sales rights.
We have been working for 6 1/2 yrs bringing this company back.
Guitar Center Inc. owns the name....... Their product is designed in the US and made in China.
View "acoustic" USA as the Gibson, Fender Custom Shop.
Our product is Designed by Mr. Russ Allee,
( THE GODFATHER OF ELECTRIC BASS AMPLIFICATION).
Russ designed the original 360/361, 320, 408 etc. He along with Harvey Gerst, Duke Augiar, and Steve Marks. WERE the great acoustic company we all still love 40 yrs later.
These amazing gentlemen are directly designing, advising and engineering my new company.
My VP. Mr. Mark Jamieson is also crutially involved.
The new 360/361 is one of the most amazing amps ever designed or ever built.
If the original 360/361 is the Holy Grail.........
Wait till you hear the new one.
It's AMAZING. Period.
Please go to the unofficial acoustic web site. The information over there is top notch.
Read the history etc, the users. Learn about Russ (The Godfather of Electric Bass Amplification", etc.
Vic....... I tried to contact you 6 mths ago through your radio site. It didn't work and I moved on.
Please feel free to contact me at:
[email protected]
or call (724)-589-5440 EST Time Zone.
I prefer the phone.
Am is best......... Ps. Saturday mornings are Great for me.
Have a great one.............. Later....... George
Roy the guy that wrote you is not in the loop. He obviously is an E-mail answerer.
The G.P.G. Co. is has a license to manufacture "acoustic" brand name bass amps Made In The USA, The G.P.G. Co has global sales rights.
We have been working for 6 1/2 yrs bringing this company back.
Guitar Center Inc. owns the name....... Their product is designed in the US and made in China.
View "acoustic" USA as the Gibson, Fender Custom Shop.
Our product is Designed by Mr. Russ Allee,
( THE GODFATHER OF ELECTRIC BASS AMPLIFICATION).
Russ designed the original 360/361, 320, 408 etc. He along with Harvey Gerst, Duke Augiar, and Steve Marks. WERE the great acoustic company we all still love 40 yrs later.
These amazing gentlemen are directly designing, advising and engineering my new company.
My VP. Mr. Mark Jamieson is also crutially involved.
The new 360/361 is one of the most amazing amps ever designed or ever built.
If the original 360/361 is the Holy Grail.........
Wait till you hear the new one.
It's AMAZING. Period.
Please go to the unofficial acoustic web site. The information over there is top notch.
Read the history etc, the users. Learn about Russ (The Godfather of Electric Bass Amplification", etc.
Vic....... I tried to contact you 6 mths ago through your radio site. It didn't work and I moved on.
Please feel free to contact me at:
[email protected]
or call (724)-589-5440 EST Time Zone.
I prefer the phone.
Am is best......... Ps. Saturday mornings are Great for me.
Have a great one.............. Later....... George
FWIW, the unofficial site is down right now, but the unofficial forum is still live and kicking!
George (and everyone else), I really appreciate the update.
Maybe it's just me but as I read Roy's message I can't help but sense a bit of pessimism. Don't let his reference of cost get you down. There are the beginnings of a ground swell concerning the US trade imbalance and its link to ecologically poor offshore manufacturing processes. Many of my vendors already have extensive plans for domestic production on paper because of their increase in foreign manufacturing costs and in anticipation of a huge domestic startup tax advantage.
While it's still to early to tell, they're consensus is that the small manufacture may have the greatest advantage. Your not alone, hang in there.
Vic
Maybe it's just me but as I read Roy's message I can't help but sense a bit of pessimism. Don't let his reference of cost get you down. There are the beginnings of a ground swell concerning the US trade imbalance and its link to ecologically poor offshore manufacturing processes. Many of my vendors already have extensive plans for domestic production on paper because of their increase in foreign manufacturing costs and in anticipation of a huge domestic startup tax advantage.
While it's still to early to tell, they're consensus is that the small manufacture may have the greatest advantage. Your not alone, hang in there.
Vic
Compared to the current Acoustic Amplification line, yeah the USA stuff is going to be really expensive. As George pointed out, Acoustic USA is essentially operating as a boutique manufacturer and as such the prices are going to reflect that.
Vetchking Here:
A slight correction here:
The Steve wrote:
Compared to the current Acoustic Amplification line, yeah the USA stuff is going to be really expensive. As George pointed out, Acoustic USA is essentially operating as a boutique manufacturer and as such the prices are going to reflect that.
I never liked the term Boutique amps. I didn't start this to be boutique. Since I have International distributors in place this is not the case.
Yes, there are small manufacturers that produce only 30 amps per year and their price must reflect their overhead to survive.
Having spent the last several years pricing parts and manufacturing capablilties I have learned that:
If the "acoustic" USA company was 20 times it's size the price wouldn't change very much at all. Due to the nature of the product and quality of the product.
Once again my people were told make it Great. Price was never mentioned. Make it Great. Period.
We also died to lower prices....... But, Make it Great is still first.
ACC designed and built their product. They we're expensive. But, people still rave about them 40 years later.
That's our role model.......... Have a Great One......... Later
A slight correction here:
The Steve wrote:
Compared to the current Acoustic Amplification line, yeah the USA stuff is going to be really expensive. As George pointed out, Acoustic USA is essentially operating as a boutique manufacturer and as such the prices are going to reflect that.
I never liked the term Boutique amps. I didn't start this to be boutique. Since I have International distributors in place this is not the case.
Yes, there are small manufacturers that produce only 30 amps per year and their price must reflect their overhead to survive.
Having spent the last several years pricing parts and manufacturing capablilties I have learned that:
If the "acoustic" USA company was 20 times it's size the price wouldn't change very much at all. Due to the nature of the product and quality of the product.
Once again my people were told make it Great. Price was never mentioned. Make it Great. Period.
We also died to lower prices....... But, Make it Great is still first.
ACC designed and built their product. They we're expensive. But, people still rave about them 40 years later.
That's our role model.......... Have a Great One......... Later
+1 MAKE IT GREAT!
Back in the day I remember paying $375 for the 136, $900 somthing for the SVT, but I need help remembering the 360 might have been either $875 or $1100? I can actually remember the reason I can't remember what I paid. Lets just say it was a beautiful day.
I'm glad that cost isn't an issue when it comes to quality of the product that you want to produce, but if you're talking a price range that is comparable to tube amps that is a bit much for a new solid state bass amp these days.
Really, shouldn't it depend on the how the amp SOUNDS? I don't care if my amp is powered tube, SS, nuclear,or rubber bands as long as it sounds awesome. I would have paid $1000 for my 370, it's loud and sounds (to my ear) better than any other amp I've ever played through.
sorry, just a real pet peeve of mine lately.
You're right, but the cost of materials for a tube amp are much more than solid state. That's what I was trying to get at.
This depends on the quality of components. The current trend in tube guitar amps has been towards smaller amps, and as such there are a plethora of tube amps ranging from 1W to the 30-50W range selling under the $400 price point. Meanwhile a brand new Roland Jazz Chorus will still run you $900.
There are certainly parts of tube amps that should make a high quality tube amp more expensive than a high quality SS amp, and I have been skeptical of some of the price points I've seen for the top tier of the new Acoustic USA line. Still, I trust that the people who are running things are justified in the prices they are charging.
..If I don't have a photo? I am the original owner of a 1974 AC 370 head. I am on the unoffical AC site under a different name. Hey, Owl... I am in the metro Atlanta area, also. Patiently awaiting my club #. All for now.....zon6c-f. [aka "rikfenzon over at the unnoccicail ac site]
