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The best fretless bass

I absolutely love my Tony Franklin Fretless bass. For me, it was the one that got me to stop looking at other fretless basses. But everyone is different. What I haven't seen recommended is a Lakland 44-02. Before the TF Fretless, all I played was Laklands. Fantastic basses with the best necks out there. The 44-02 is active and can cop a lot of sounds. Good luck on your quest. I've been there. I hope you find what you are looking for.
 
Obviously I play a fretless SR4 - if I had a SUB just lying around, and even knowing that I would end up with a lined board, I would probably go the defret route. At least I could get the lines colour-matched to the rosewood.

If that wasn't an option I would probably go with the Portamento. I've played a few over the years and theyv'e all been very good. I like the extended range of the fingerboard, I liked the feel of the necks and the AeroSilk piezo system is, IMHO, one of the better ones both on it's own and in how it blends with the magnetic pickups.

I have a fretless Corvette that sounds good but I don't really play it much because the ergonomics don't work for me: the super-light Ash body is great as an idea but it means the thing overall is head-heavy. If you decide on a Corvette make sure the body is heavy enough to counter neck-dive. But keep in mind that even the $$ version won't sound like a StingRay, if that is what you want.

The SIRE play well but I really can't get on with the preamps. For all the options and apparent flexibility I've never been able to find any satisfactory settings. Not only that, I've tried a lot of SIRE at all price points and in every case I've noticed that the stack knobs are sticky - turn the top and the bottom goes with it; turn the bottom and the top also moves. Also, I don't like lined, bound and gloss-coated fingerboards, but that is just a personal preference.



Can't comment on those.
I agree with you 100% about the Sire preamp. I replaced mine with a two band Sadowsky and added the vintage tone control to it. It’s simple to use, boost only, and sounds incredibly good.
 
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Look around for a G&L fretless, they are really great at speaking since they have such a pronounced midrange, much like a Musicman. And G&L's are a bargain on the used market. I miss the one I had. These have way more mids than a Warwick.
When I search for g&l fretless on reverb, I get 3 results, between 1200 and 3000 dollars. Not exactly a bargain. 😄
 
Boy oh boy, have you been speakin’ my language. I’d been on the hunt for the past 2 years trying to find a fretless that actually made me sound good. I’ve had 10 different fretless basses, and can speak to that positives and negatives (IMO) of each.

Squier VM Fretless. Ebonol board, passive. : Excellent fretless, my first. Once sorted ( strings/setup) provided years of fun, but it did weigh 9 1/2 lbs and I had a good friend that wanted to try fretless. I gifted it to him, ( Love that guy) Great inexpensive starter into the fretless world, Maybe not what you're looking for.

Sadowsky MetroExpress JJ Fretless: Arrived from Spain in 2023 as a 2020 leftover. I could tell why. It was a wreck. Like all the SMX’s, needed extensive setup, cosmetic and electrical work to be giggable. Once sorted, worked great. But I had a falling out with CHinese Sadowsky’s and sold it. I regret it now. It was a pretty great bass, but not for anyone unable to do lots of fixing. Currently priced far over their value new, and often require another $200 to upgrade the electrics. Not recommended.

Sire Z7 Fretless: 2025. Just got it two weeks ago. Weight was prohibitive to say the least . 1oz below 10lbs. Absolutely stunning bass. Gorgeous. Set it up, and sounded like a fretted bass. Virtually no mwah, no bloom. You know how som Fretless’s don’t sing? This was like that. Very disappointing, especially since it was inexpensive, and stunningly beautiful. Returned in 4 days.

Warwick Corvette fretless: German made. Similar to the sire. Ungodly heavy. Was passive, I put a pre in it, and blacked out the hardware, and flipped it. Again. No Bloom, poor mwah. Prohibitively heavy.

Ibanez Portamento: great player, excellent mwah, great bloom, killin sound ACOUSTICALLY. Just could not get behind the electrics. I even swapped in Nordstrands, but the Pre with the three separate volumes, gave me tons of tones. None I liked. Not one. I blame my shortcomings as a fretless player as to why it didn't provide the sound I was hoping to hear in my head. Your experience may differ, but it’s a pretty incredible instrument for the price range. Just didn’t work out for me.

Elrick NJS5 Czech made: Czech NJS models are on par with Spector Euros and Sadowsky Metrolines. They are absolute top tier instruments. This one sounded like the fretboard was made of aluminum. So Bright. So metallic. Such a disappointment. Absolutely beautiful instrument. Not a lick of warmth to be found.

Ibanez SRH500F : Feather light. Under 7 lbs. Piezo only. Extremely limited sound. Played fantastically. Sang acoustically. Mwah, and bloom present, but not overly. Ibanez makes some fantastic lower cost fretless models, but for some reason the electrics are the shortfall.

Squier Affinity MOD to Pseudo Tony Franklin: While waiting in the sire ( which was supposed to be delayed till Dec 2025 but showed up suddenly) I decided to try and just make the bass I’d heard in my head. Tony’s YouTube videos reflected close the sound I wanted to capture, so I built this from a $175 FB Marketplace Affinty PJ. Turned out stunning AND SINGS!!. From the first note it was apparent I’d gotten a good neck off eBay. Flamed roasted maple with a rosewood unlined board. Put DiMarzio Model P & J’s in, new hardware, and a tone monster pre. And, It appears to be good enough. For now, but before i built that, I had picked up a…..

Ibanez GWB35: Got this from GC used as a bit of a basket case. Kicker was, it played incredibly well, had one of the nicest ebony polished boards I’d ever seen, and had mwah and bloom for days, But the truck liner finish and weak electrics ( like all lower end Ibanez apparently) had to be addressed. I did a full refinish, Bart Electrics, a removed all the Willis hardware. Now it’s really getting used. And If I were to recommend any fretless, it would be the GWB35, BUT you’ll want to swap in the BART pre. Makes a world of difference. The OEM Ibanez radiused pickup seems to be doing the job, but down the road I may swap in the Willis Bart pickup.

Regarding some other suggestions, The G&L is an interesting choice but is known to be heavy too. The Crews Maniac looks incredible, but may be a hard bass to source. There are some pretty cool suggestions in this thread.

I hope you feel this was helpful. Not here to hijack, simply impart my own experiences so as to help you find your perfect fretless. But the quick answer is, I’d go with the Willis, with a Bart Pre dropped in as an affordable choice

But if money is no object the Warwick Thumb fretless with the MM pickup is pretty spectacular too.
 

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Never tried it, but the higher end bartolini pups and electronics sound great. I hear complaints about the gwb35 electronics and there was something along that line earlier in this thread as well.
Yes, the Willis I modded got the Bart pre swapped in. But as I stated, I find the electrics in many Ibanez basses as the shortcoming. But after a pickup or preamp swap, theyre usually excellent instruments.
 
Don’t waste time or money trying to find a substitute for what you really want . That has never worked for me.
If you know that you want a StingRay get one. It doesn’t have to be a BFR. They have the Pino and they have the Custom Design Experience.
Buy a used one or make one from a donor fretted Ray of your choice . There was a short run of the Sterling import Rays that sound great. Rare , but they exist or have one made from a fretted.

Either way, get yourself a fretless Ray, and call it a day ……that’s all I have to say!!!;)😊
 
Of the fretless basses I owned, the Corvette fretless was the best sounding but super uncomfortable to play. Second up would be my P bass. Warmoth ebony/birdseye maple neck slapped onto a Fender American performer body. It's currently strung with La Belle flats and it sounds and plays amazing.

In other words, I'm a huge fan of Warmoth's fretless necks.
 
I thought this had been settled already
The Steinberger XL-II fretless is the best fretless bass made:

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Late response, if you want to hear one of these live look up Pete Townshend’s live performances of Give Blood. Passing shots of bass player using one of these. Sounds great, good song too. I prefer live at Brixton Academy performance it’s shorter and hits a bit harder. Original album version of song was Pino on his Music Man ( I think). Sax player looks like David Sanborn to me, but horn credits list other names so no. Anyway enjoy.
 
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@pb9717: Thx, that was like going to the library and reading Consumer Reports' fretless issue !​


I started on the Squier VM ebonol which smelled funny if you bent strings like you're not supposed to, had a 2021 B stock Metroexpress which i had planed, good with flats not rounds, a recent used Korean Warwick Corvette from GC was a wreck tho not sure why,

and there were warnings on TB about Metroexpress small screw heads of that vintage breaking and i had that happen, took it to a shop and the guy left a decent gaping hole in the headstock where he extracted the screw remains so now i have to use screw in bushings... Caveat whoever.
 
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Im not a big fretless player but I got a Vintage Icon V74 MRJP in 2015. It has lines, dot inlays and fake wear like a jaco bass. Then in 2021 I saw a second hand Warwick Rockbass streamer LX (I think rockbass is Warwick's equivilent of Fender's Squire?) it was unlined and active but it looked cool as. The unlined put me off it but I went for it. Then I figured out that you don't need lines to play in tune and should probably use your ear to get better . Anyway, earlier this year I sold the Vintage lined because I thought I dont play fretless enough to warrant owning one fretless let alone two. But the warwick is probably the best sounding bass I have and would probably play it more if it wasn't fretless. It just sounds amazing

ps just realised the lined fretless neck is what you see in my profile picture :D
 
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Ibanez Soundgear- several versions, unless you don’t like thin neck basses.
This is my SR500F
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Great necks, so comfortable, comfy bodies, well balanced, sound great, etc.
There are models above this and below this that have been made over the years, every one I’ve tried is real nice.
I spent several months looking for one, and there were others I would have been happy with, but I decided not to get.
But as soon as I held this one in my hands, before I even played it, I knew it was coming home with me, it was exactly wha5 I was looking for.
I got it just before I joined here, and I still feel the same way.

If you like other stuff, that’s cool too, but for me?
It’s a Soundgear
 
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